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AJAX23/01/2021 20:39:52
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Apologies for the poor quality images. Can anyone identify this lathe? It looks a bit Britannia-esque and I have trawled the usual websites with no success. I'm told it has a throw of about 14".

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Ady124/01/2021 00:46:20
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A curious machine, big, but not heavy at the headstock end, an unusual box bed design and a powered cross slide absolutely brimming with t-nut slots

Keith Long24/01/2021 09:04:02
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It looks very reminiscent of a Drummond 5 inch, particularly the heavily T slotted cross-slide, see www.lathes.co.uk/drummond5inchphotoessay

Rob McSweeney24/01/2021 09:07:29
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Iooks like a 5" Drummond to me.

Plenty of info on www.lathes.co, plus a group on facebook and what used to be a yahoo group which has now migrated elsewhere.

Brian H24/01/2021 10:01:22
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The Yahoo group is now on:

**LINK**

Brian

AJAX24/01/2021 12:04:38
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Posted by Ady1 on 24/01/2021 00:46:20:

A curious machine, big, but not heavy at the headstock end, an unusual box bed design and a powered cross slide absolutely brimming with t-nut slots

I agree, the bed design is unusual and not like anything else I can find. The cross slide looks like a boring table.

AJAX24/01/2021 12:07:25
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Posted by Rob McSweeney on 24/01/2021 09:07:29:

Iooks like a 5" Drummond to me.

Plenty of info on www.lathes.co, plus a group on facebook and what used to be a yahoo group which has now migrated elsewhere.

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Lee Rogers24/01/2021 12:49:44
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Yes Drummond . Note the double bed.

SillyOldDuffer24/01/2021 13:57:01
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Posted by AJAX on 24/01/2021 12:04:38:
Posted by Ady1 on 24/01/2021 00:46:20:

A curious machine, big, but not heavy at the headstock end, an unusual box bed design and a powered cross slide absolutely brimming with t-nut slots

I agree, the bed design is unusual and not like anything else I can find. The cross slide looks like a boring table.

I wonder if dating back to 1912 explains the double bed? It's about the time HSS forced lathe design to change. Before HSS lathe knives were made of ordinary Carbon Tool steel. Works well provided the temperature is kept very low, which is achieved by flood cooling or light cuts only.

Victorian lathes are quite spindly compared with 20th century lathes. Most small machines were built to take light cuts only and treadle powered.

I suggest the double bed is an early attempt to beef-up an existing lay-out to use HSS, which cuts about 5 times faster than carbon tool steel and puts much more stress on the machine. Later, the complicated double bed was discarded because it's cheaper to make a stubby conventional bed, reinforce it internally, and stiffen the legs.

Bed design is 'quite interesting'. Gaps, flat tops, prismatic forms, and two or four legged ways, are all either rubbish or wonderful depending on who is asked. Been lots of experimentation over the years.

I've seen claims carbon tool-steel is better for fine work than HSS because it takes a sharper edge. Not sure it's true, though it might be. I can imagine time-served Victorian turners rejecting HSS as newfangled rubbish!

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Ady124/01/2021 14:04:19
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It kinda said heavy duty precision woodwork to me

From the old days, grand pianos, mosquito aircraft, that kind of thing

But probby lighter metalwork, as mentioned previously

Edited By Ady1 on 24/01/2021 14:06:53

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