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Richard Hudson 423/01/2021 16:37:15
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Hello, does anyone happen to have a picture of a completed split ring for the sliding high and low speed gear selector, the one that clamps around the gear hub. I have made one only to find it’s no good and John hainings drawing of the component is not much good. I’m a time served fitter machinist and read machining drawings every day but I’m struggling with some of these sketches. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Also if anyone has any pictures of their build I would love to share or swap some pictures.

Thanks very much Richard Hudson.

br23/01/2021 16:42:51
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Station Road Steam -- select archive -- then traction engine section may well be worth a look.

A very useful resource

br

 

Amended to say FOUR different models showing and 64 photos.

 

Edited By br on 23/01/2021 16:50:47

Dave Halford23/01/2021 16:56:25
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The Haining s/c ploughing engine that he designed at the same time has a fork of 7/8" radius with 3/8" straight bits passed the radius centre on both sides. So open at the bottom.

bernard towers23/01/2021 17:35:51
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from memory it should look like this. sorry for the poor drawing but can't get veto the engine to take photo.d&ny.jpeg

Boiler Bri23/01/2021 17:44:52
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Boiler Bri23/01/2021 17:45:35
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MichaelR23/01/2021 19:03:55
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gear change ring.jpgHow I made the part for my engine.

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Edited By MichaelR on 23/01/2021 19:04:27

Richard Hudson 423/01/2021 19:58:41
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Thanks very much guys I can see where I went wrong now. Did you all make the selector from one piece or did you all solder the flat brackets onto the back of the ring as the instructions say?

anyhow here is where I am up to on my build. It’s taken a few years now because of work commitments and being a tight yorkshire I refuse to buy any castings. Everything has been made from scratch or fabricated, including the steam chest. All the gears are made as are all the wheels, the next major part will be the tender for the coal, after I get this damn selector ring

Richard Hudson 423/01/2021 20:01:07
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Boiler Bri23/01/2021 21:46:22
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Mine is 4”. It was easy to make individual parts and use cap heads to fix it together. They are hidden.

The bow fork is actually a bit narrow. I made it out if 6mm plate instead of 1/4”. To take up the slack i made brass buttons and pressed them into each half bow.

bri

MichaelR24/01/2021 09:35:32
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I silver soldered the parts together, it could be done from one piece.

MichaelR

Paul Horth26/01/2021 21:08:17
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Hello Richard,

I made my selector ring by simplifying the Haining design. Hopefully the photos will make this clear. I made it with the two half rings bolted to a fabricated back plate with the pin integrally attached. When in high gear, the pin engages with a little brass slide attached inside the gear guard. This stops the tendency for the ring to swivel forward which can cause the gear to jump out of mesh.

I can offer a list of other minor modifications which I have made on my engine, to overcome various problems with the Haining design. Maybe you have not yet made some of these bits and you can pick up what looks useful.

Paul

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Richard Hudson 427/01/2021 16:44:03
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Thanks for the pictures Paul your method looks interesting and I might give it a go . I’m interested in some of the modifications you might have made as it gets a bit annoying when after spending hours making parts exactly to drawing I find that they don’t fit or don’t look right.

Richard Hudson 427/01/2021 16:45:46
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On another note has anyone else had trouble posting pictures on this sight using an iPad . I have tried to post pictures of my engine on here the other day but I can’t fathom out how to do it.

Richard Hudson 427/01/2021 16:55:26
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Edited By JasonB on 27/01/2021 17:01:34

Richard Hudson 427/01/2021 16:55:56
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Paul Horth28/01/2021 12:32:57
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Richard,

I have sent you a message with some modification notes.

Best regards

Paul

br28/01/2021 13:03:11
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Richard

Fine looking engine.

Is it a steel boiler ?

br

Edited By br on 28/01/2021 13:22:43

Richard Hudson 428/01/2021 22:01:39
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Yes it’s a steel boiler that I made myself. It’s made from high grade boiler tubing as used on an actual steam turbine.

I made the wall of the boiler shell slightly thicker to allow for any rust erosion. It’s been tig welded and then pressure tested with water to 250psi with no problems . Everything on the engine has been built from scratch.

Paul Horth29/01/2021 15:33:51
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Richard,

Please can you send an email address, I am trying to send a drawing of the firehole door, but the PM service on this forum is not functional for me today.

Paul Horth

paulhorth@hotmail.com

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