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Rockingdodge20/11/2020 11:35:10
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Back in the late sixties my father acquired and restored this bench drill:

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This is the only id plate on it:

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and this is the motor plate:

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I don't know if this is the original motor or a replacement?

My reason for asking is that I want to replace the chuck but don't know if it is in a taper or threaded!

Thanks

Roger

Michael Gilligan20/11/2020 12:09:38
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Can I chose between a Coconut and a Goldfish for my prize ?

**LINK**

http://www.lathes.co.uk/meddings-pacera/

MichaelG.

Rockingdodge20/11/2020 12:59:18
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Thanks Michael,

Didn't think of looking there frown, I'm afraid the coconut has gone dry and the goldfish has sadly passed away crying but I can offer you a sprout from brussels in time for Christmas if I can get it past Customs devillaugh,

Now to see if it gives me the info about the chuck that I so badly need.

Regards

Roger

not done it yet20/11/2020 13:19:53
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Any chuck should fit - if you choose a suitable arbor. It is worth a good quality keyless chuck if used a fair amount.

Rockingdodge20/11/2020 15:12:14
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Posted by not done it yet on 20/11/2020 13:19:53:

Any chuck should fit - if you choose a suitable arbor. It is worth a good quality keyless chuck if used a fair amount.

Yep but I don't know if it's on a taper or threaded!

There is no readable id on the chuck. I have a number of chucks available but until I can remove it I don't know what fits. I can't attempt to remove it until I know the form of attachment in case I cause irreparable damage.

ega20/11/2020 15:23:13
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I couldn't see the answer from MichaelG's link but would guess it's on a taper. If so, there will be a gap between the chuck end of the taper and the body of the chuck. I suggest you hold a drill bit in a chuck on the table and drill up through the body of the chuck. If it breaks thorough into the gap you have your answer. You can then tap the hole and insert a jack-off screw to remove the chuck either from the spindle or arbor as the case may be.

KWIL20/11/2020 16:19:34
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Close up photo of the chuck/spindle area would assist. It appears to be a taper fit so the opposed wedges type of remover would work OK.

Edited By KWIL on 20/11/2020 16:19:59

Michael Gilligan20/11/2020 16:43:44
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Posted by Rockingdodge on 20/11/2020 12:59:18:

Thanks Michael,

Didn't think of looking there frown, I'm afraid the coconut has gone dry and the goldfish has sadly passed away crying but I can offer you a sprout from brussels in time for Christmas if I can get it past Customs devillaugh,

Now to see if it gives me the info about the chuck that I so badly need.

Regards

Roger

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I only claimed the prize for identifying the machine, but will forego that

... please feel free to cremate the goldfish by burning the coconut.

As a bonus, I will mention that Meddings is still trading, and has a website : **LINK**

https://www.meddings.co.uk

They may be able to advise ...

MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 20/11/2020 16:45:26

Rockingdodge20/11/2020 16:53:53
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Posted by KWIL on 20/11/2020 16:19:34:

Close up photo of the chuck/spindle area would assist. It appears to be a taper fit so the opposed wedges type of remover would work OK.

Edited By KWIL on 20/11/2020 16:19:59

As requested:

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img_20201120_163511.jpg

I can get better pics of the inside tomorrow if they help.

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I only claimed the prize for identifying the machine, but will forego that

... please feel free to cremate the goldfish by burning the coconut.

As a bonus, I will mention that Meddings is still trading, and has a website : **LINK**

https://www.meddings.co.uk

They may be able to advise ...

MichaelG."

Thanks Michael, any words you wish said at the cremation? angel

I have sent an email to Meddings in the hope of a parts list or manual as they do still stock certain wear parts, not the quill though.

Regards

Roger

Emgee20/11/2020 17:56:10
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Looks to me like a male taper at the end of the spindle, a pair of chuck wedges would establish the truth.

Emgee

Michael Gilligan20/11/2020 18:48:19
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Posted by Rockingdodge on 20/11/2020 16:53:53:
 

Michael any words you wish said at the cremation? angel

 

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We are gathered here to say farewell to Goldie

This piece of Cod passeth all understanding

By the power of this desecrated coconut ... Ashes to Ashes

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MichaelG.

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Credit to Edwin Lutyens:

https://www.lutyenstrust.org.uk/about-lutyens/biography/

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 20/11/2020 18:48:43

Brian H20/11/2020 18:58:24
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Definitely looks like a taper; to hazard a guess I'd say Jacobs No 6 but might be better to wait and see if Meddings respond.

It looks to be a very useful drill though.

Brian

Rockingdodge20/11/2020 19:37:07
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 20/11/2020 18:48:19:
Posted by Rockingdodge on 20/11/2020 16:53:53:

Michael any words you wish said at the cremation? angel

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We are gathered here to say farewell to Goldie

This piece of Cod passeth all understanding

By the power of this desecrated coconut ... Ashes to Ashes

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MichaelG.

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Credit to Edwin Lutyens:

**LINK**

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 20/11/2020 18:48:43

Haha, sweet but shouldn't it be "By the power of this dessicated coconut ... battered or breaded"?devil

Brian H

I think you're right but I will wait for Meddings for a couple of days but I'll take a photo right inside the chuck and post it as I'm sure that it is the end of the spindle that can be seen.

Roger

Michael Gilligan20/11/2020 21:02:02
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Posted by Rockingdodge on 20/11/2020 19:37:07:

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but shouldn't it be "By the power of this dessicated coconut ... battered or breaded"?devil

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At which point, the congregation sings:

There’s a plaice for us __ Somewhere a plaice for us

MichaelG.

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P.S. My use of desecrated was not a typo

Rockingdodge20/11/2020 21:50:31
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Oh Michael, we're having a whale of a time.

G'dnite

Roger

Michael Gilligan20/11/2020 22:07:41
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Kippers for breakfast, Roger ?

MichaelG.

Rockingdodge21/11/2020 11:06:59
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As promised here is a couple of photos from inside the chuck. Do they help with identifying if it's a taper or a screwed chuck?

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Regards

Roger (floundering devil)

Michael

What are you carping on about? You're being a bit of a clownfish now laugh, no disrespect intended but I'm struggling now wink

Edited By Rockingdodge on 21/11/2020 11:16:46

larry phelan 121/11/2020 17:36:39
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This looks to me to something of a red herring !

DiogenesII21/11/2020 18:14:09
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Is that hole threaded? ..it looks exactly what I'd expect if some former owner has used it to jack the chuck off it's taper before.. ..the 'witness' further in looks as if the end of a bolt has borne on the end of the taper within.

Pretty sure that the other Meddings "lightweight" offering, the Driltru, has a male Jacobs Taper on the end of the spindle. Certain that the smaller Pollards do.

I'd always thought that screwed chucks only really became widespread on pistol drills?

Rockingdodge22/11/2020 15:06:13
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Woohoo! success laugh

I made a couple of wedges after seeing the price of commercial items and orft it jolly well popped. smiley

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The top taper measured approx:

top taper.jpg

and the bottom:

bottom taper.jpg

So it seems to be in the realms of a J6 taper.

Now to give myself a heart attack and see how much a half inch keyless chuck is going to cost Santa! devil

Thanks for all your help and advice, much appreciated.

Roger

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