|Garry Coles||24/10/2020 08:05:51|
80 forum posts
Hi. I've got a lot of tools, like spanners & tooling bits etc that are picking up swarf all the time. Very annoying having to wipe them down all the time. Is there a way to de-magnetise them or do I have to put up with it.
Is there anybody that can give me some advice please.
|Brian H||24/10/2020 08:11:16|
1862 forum posts
The Eclipse demagnetisers are excellent although a little pricy. I recently bought a Chinese one for small spanners and screwdrivers and was surprised that it even worked on a 1/2" Whit spanner, although it took several passes to completely demagnetise.
|Garry Coles||24/10/2020 08:48:18|
80 forum posts
Thanks Brian. Have looked at some online and yes they are quite pricey.
|larry phelan 1||24/10/2020 09:47:41|
|868 forum posts|
Bought one of those things recently in Lidi, quite cheap and totally useless.
|Tony Pratt 1||24/10/2020 09:50:48|
|1271 forum posts|
Returned for a full refund?
|David George 1||24/10/2020 10:04:03|
1386 forum posts
I take anything to local toolmaker and borrow his Eclipse demag it only takes a few minutes.
|John Pace||24/10/2020 10:05:11|
|210 forum posts|
I made this unit from the drawings in Model engineer
|Peter G. Shaw||24/10/2020 10:44:17|
1191 forum posts
Many years ago, in what seems like a different life, I bought a tape head demagnetiser. You can tell how old - it has a 5A round pin rubber plug on it. Sorry, got sidetracked. Anyway, it still works and I use it reasonably successfully for demagnetising stuff. Whether or not it will handle spanners I don't know. As someone else has said, it can be necessary to have two or more attempts, and for what it's worth, I always remove the tool slowly by at least 600 mm thus gradually reducing the demagnetising field before switching it off.
Peter G. Shaw
|Martin Cargill||24/10/2020 10:51:51|
|148 forum posts|
On the same subject. My bench vice at work has become magnetised, Its a full sized 6" vice, any ideas how to demagnetise it?
|Jim Nic||24/10/2020 12:53:09|
279 forum posts
I also use a small cheapo Chinese demagnetiser from the bay. My experience of it is similar to Brian H in that it can take a couple of goes through the procedure to completely get rid of residual magnetism but the end result is usually good. I've not tried it on anything bigger than a 12mm spanner.
|John Baron||24/10/2020 16:37:01|
339 forum posts
An easy way to get a demagnetiser, is to take the rotor out of an old washing machine pump motor and throw it away. Passing your magnetised tool through the stator aperture will quickly demag it !
NOTE: The coil will very quickly get hot and overheat so you only get about 30 seconds to demag stuff. You can use the open end of the metal stator to demag larger items.
Edited By John Baron on 24/10/2020 16:37:54
|Ian Hewson||24/10/2020 16:53:52|
|276 forum posts|
For non too delicate tools, screwdrivers spanner’s etc, a sharp rap on the vice will often demagnetise them.
1643 forum posts
That's all i do , a quick tap on a hard surface usually does the job.
|John Purdy||24/10/2020 18:34:51|
218 forum posts
I made this one from the same ME article as John. I used a power transformer that came from a Peavey guitar amp that had come in for repair. I had replaced it as the thermal fuse in the primary had opened. It had sat around on the floor of the shop for a number of years as I couldn't make myself throw it out. I wired the two secondary windings in series (80 and 30 volts) to the power cord (120 volt supply). Note the two wood strips where I milled slots in the laminations to break the flux lines in the core, milled down til there was about 1/16" of the laminations left. Works great, de-magnetizes even the largest wrenches in a few seconds, also quite successfully de-magnetized the 4" 3 jaw lathe chuck. The thin Bakelite sheet glued to the top stops the items to be de-magnetized from sticking to the laminations.
Edited By John Purdy on 24/10/2020 18:37:07
Edited By John Purdy on 24/10/2020 18:53:01
|not done it yet||24/10/2020 19:21:07|
|5141 forum posts|
I have an Eclipse demagnetiser. Not sure exactly how good it is - it seems like one is needed if one surface grinds using a magnetic chuck? I also have a couple of largish torroidal transformers which I expect would work quite well for passing items through the centre.
|Simon Williams 3||24/10/2020 19:27:51|
|535 forum posts|
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the magnetic field in the centre of a toroid identically zero? The lines of flux are toroidal to connect the windings magnetically, it's only leakage flux remnant at the centre?
Rgds to all Simon
|Robert Atkinson 2||24/10/2020 19:45:50|
823 forum posts
A Toroid is useless for this application.
996 forum posts
About 30 years ago when working in the inspection department of a manufacturer that produced equipment using magnetic drives we had a large coil demagnetiser for demagnetising certain components, I was using a bowers tri point micrometer and it was so magnetic that it had a nest of swarf clinging to it so I thought I would use the demagnetiser, that’s was ok but I forgot that with so much current flowing in the demagnetisers coils the bowers mic heated up very rapidly, so rapidly that it got so hot I nearly dropped it. I learnt from this experience how quickly a coil can generate heat, the mic was certainly demagnetised though.
|Peter G. Shaw||24/10/2020 21:35:32|
1191 forum posts
Just a thought. perhaps someone can advise.
I have a cheapo XP arc welder. Now I haven't opened it up, but I believe it consists of a large & heavy transformer. I wonder if this could be modified into a dual purpose device?
Peter G. Shaw
|Robert Atkinson 2||24/10/2020 21:53:31|
823 forum posts
If the welder has an AC output then yes, you could use it as a power source for a demagnetiser. A DC output will make a magnetiser Wind a coil out of heavy gauge insulated wire (4mm2 would be a good start, it has to carry the current for several seconds) with as many turns as you can and the hole in the middle big enough to get the item you want to demagetize into.
As a guide a inverter welder or one with electronic controls is likely to be DC, a cheap one with a big knob or switches to set current will be AC.
Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 24/10/2020 22:07:21
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