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Barrie Lever09/08/2020 10:26:00
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Dave

Full reply to follow later today but suffice to say it will not go unchallenged !!

And you are right this Orc will not be volunteering for any service sector job as it just does not work that way.

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Barrie

Edited By Barrie Lever on 09/08/2020 10:26:27

mgnbuk09/08/2020 11:04:35
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The machines appear to be slow three axis ones, which are well past their prime.

The machines are from a good quality manufacturer, but I am suprised that Triumph still operated them as some look to be of a vintage that suggests they were bought when they initially started up. Most machining operations don't require any more than 3 / 4 axis operation & they will not be "slow" even at that age.

I doubt that you would find machines of that age in a Japanese factory - my understanding of Japanese manufacturing is that they replace machine tools very regularly (every 2 years or less) to ensure that they are accurate, reliable & keep up with the latest technology. There is a least one UK machine tool dealer who imports these ex-Japanese factory machines & sells them here as "nearly new".

There would be little sense in exporting such old machinery to Thailand. Better to buy new machinery to expand operations out there as required.

I think the company is in good shape with no signs of trouble .

Not what is being reported or speculated here from what I can see.

Lots of them in my circle and never heard of any problems

Lucky ? Starter sprag clutch problems on the early ones, with a design that required a full engine strip to change. The German magazine Motorrad has a Speed Triple on long term test at the moment that has dropped a valve - twice. Mutterings of widespread gearbox shift mechanism problems on the liquid cooled twins that are not being addressed with a recall. Triumph seem to have just as many issues as other makers.

Triumph trade on their "Britishness", but in reality they are just another "globalised" company. Some customers will not be bothered where the product is made, but others will not be happy to support them now they have shed UK jobs. Manufacturing in Thailand does not seem to have been driven by being able to offer the products at a lower price - even entry-level Triumphs are not what you would call cheap here.

Nigel B.

Circlip09/08/2020 12:51:05
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Lack of machinery investment is not new, we used to have a textile industry until after WW2. Used to have an Ignerring industry too. Wonder how many realise the machines they now use are re exported castings?

Regards Ian.

Mike Poole09/08/2020 15:41:09
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An interesting article in the Telegraph proposed that now we have discovered working from home, that home could be anywhere In the world. The export of blue collar jobs in the ‘80s could be followed by white collar jobs in the ‘20s. The world could be changing fast and soon.

Mike

Hopper10/08/2020 07:12:45
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Posted by Mike Poole on 09/08/2020 15:41:09:

An interesting article in the Telegraph proposed that now we have discovered working from home, that home could be anywhere In the world. The export of blue collar jobs in the ‘80s could be followed by white collar jobs in the ‘20s. The world could be changing fast and soon.

Mike

The "Digital Nomad" thing has been going on for a while. Younger backpacker types from the West living semipermanently in Thailand and similar countries cheap and working over the net on computer programming, website building and whatever they can turn a buck at. Newspapers in Hong Kong were doing similar 20 years ago with some sub-editors living in cheaper Thailand and subediting the HK daily paper via the net.

Now there are websites like Freelancer.com where businesses all over the world post jobs they need doing in mostly IT fields and writing content for websites and tech documentation etc. And the freelancers cut each others' throats to get enough work to survive. Many freelancers from India and Malaysia dominating the scene, working for a few dollars an hour of hard currency that exchanges very favourably in their home country.

So yes, once Western businesses work out they can have employees working from home via computer it is only one small step to getting someone on board whose home is in a country where wage expectations are a fraction of current levels. Immigration visas stop the world's masses from flocking to the countries where the jobs are, but nothing stops the jobs going the other way to them.

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