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An independant industrial training school near me has ceased trading & is auctioning off everything.
Lots include 19 Colchester Student 2500 lathes (extra chucks & faceplates as separate lots) and a dozen or so small Asian Turret mills, Haas Toolroom mills & lathe and some Boxford CNC training lathes. Also lots of measuring equipment + garage & sheet metal stuff + computers. The premises they used are only a mile or so from J25 M62.
Always sad to see auctions for companies closing, but the closure of the largest engineering training establishment in the area can not be good long term for engineering apprenticeships locally.
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Incredibly bad timing to close a training place just when we shoud be re-skilling some people. Lots of thihgs to appear on ebay shortly then. I notice one chuck backplace miss-described as a faceplate.
|Nigel Bennett||06/08/2020 12:49:52|
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Gosh! There's a hell of a lot of stuff there. With so many identical bit-too-big for the average model engineer lathes for sale, I can imagine they'll go for peanuts and then be shipped overseas. I do wonder about some of those cupboards plus contents, though; if you bid and won one, how much of the contents would you actually get?
|Barrie Lever||06/08/2020 13:27:06|
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Almost makes me want to cry, the only way that true wealth is created is by manufacturing, mining or farming and we need top skilled people to help us trade our way out of the current mess.
|jann west||06/08/2020 13:33:59|
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It's sad! Generally speaking ... Apparently (injury/negligence/etc.) insurance for metalwork training schools is very expensive, and the consumables are also expensive (whoops - someone forgot to turn off the argon on a welder and the college's entire tank leaked out overnight ... happened at CNWL the year I was there ... oops!) ... far easier and more profitable to teach courses in "digital marketing" etc.
|Frances IoM||06/08/2020 13:34:23|
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|the jobs that will be needed for many school leavers will not require real skill just mere ability to operate a coffee machine - there are some real engineering companies in the UK but too many, IMO, are in the armaments industry eg we can't even build ships (the next IoM ferry is to be built in Korea), nuclear reactors or even PPE needs.|
|Ian Parkin||06/08/2020 14:22:54|
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There was a similar auction 2018 in Rotherham with 5 similar lathes and 5 Bridgeport’s
the lathes all went for about £500 each
all the tooling was in big cabinets sold as one lot
so in one cabinet was all the tooling required for 5 lathes
|J Hancock||06/08/2020 14:52:57|
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'We' have just wasted more money on one order buying useless face masks than it would cost to keep that training facility open for posterity.
Best not to worry our little heads on what direction we're going.
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Sad to see, a bucket of mics in one lot. Thought only Chicken came in buckets.
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If true the Yoof are doing remarkably well. Today the Service Sector delivers 80% of UK National Income. They're paying our pensions, not traditional manufacturing.
I'm all for celebrating the past but we live in a very different world and future generations will see even more change. Teaching youngsters to drive machine tools isn't going to make anybody rich. Ostlers, mantle cutters and Fossetmakers aren't in demand either.
Challenge for wise forum members: how should wealth be generated in future? Extra marks for showing figures and workings. Marks subtracted for unjustified optimism and empty promises - keep it real please. Zero for yearning after Industrial methods failed repeatedly since 1955. The Good Old Ways are dead and gone, what next?
|john halfpenny||06/08/2020 15:24:33|
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Nevertheless Dave, we cannot all wash each others windows.
|Cornish Jack||06/08/2020 17:45:27|
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S.O.D's view is, unfortunately correct - not because there is no requirement for engineering skills, but because, as a nation, we prize money-making in the here and now over investment in long-term projects. It's the mentality which left the motor industry and similar hanging onto obsolete machine tools 'cos it was cheaper, rather than invest in up-to-date technology. We leave foresight to others and wonder why we end up in a mess.
|Frances IoM||06/08/2020 18:01:17|
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|coffee bars even allowing for their now complete dominance of the high street do not provide the 80% - the service economy includes the money laundering City of London that is where the bulk of the tax revenue appears from (I should add there are many other financial services but the number of rich Russians, Chinese and Gulf Arabs should indicate where a significant amount of money derives from)|
|jimmy b||06/08/2020 19:12:15|
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Thank you for the link. I'll be having a few bids on things.
|larry phelan 1||06/08/2020 20:41:19|
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When and where is this auction taking place ?
Dont see any mention of lathes ect in that link.
|Robert Atkinson 2||06/08/2020 20:43:34|
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Interestingly there are a number of "virtual reality welding simulators" amongst the lots presumably no gas required and n burns received!
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Start from about lot 200 for lathes
Try clicking "auction info" for dates
|Phil Whitley||06/08/2020 21:12:41|
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Some nice looking Boxford cnc lathes there, search for Boxford cnc Milling machine to find them !!!!!
|J Hancock||06/08/2020 21:24:22|
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With you word for word PW but don't hold your breath waiting for action on any of those fronts.
The only consolation, we few will be amongst the last survivors of any catastrophe.
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