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Edward Dembowski08/07/2020 15:07:09
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Now that the Flash plugin is being discontinued due to continual security issues, will there be another way to access back issues online? It seems everything from issue 277 and older needs Flash to be enabled.

Brian G09/07/2020 12:47:59
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Bumped because I would also like to know if the archive will be re-issued. Since this was first raised back in 2017 there has been a format change for the newest content but it is still required to view most of the archive and Microsoft's announcement that "Flash will be completely removed from all browsers by December 31, 2020, via Windows Update." does appear pretty final.

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Graham Stoppani10/07/2020 05:27:52
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Ditto

JasonB10/07/2020 07:25:01
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I expect Neil's reply from a couple of months ago still stands.

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 20/04/2020 20:40:04:

The problem is the archives are not a significant source of income, at present they are added value for what is still a relatively modest number of people who prefer a digital subscription. Partly this is because pirate digital copies of archive issues have effectively removed the potential value of a rejuvenated archive.

At one point we were close to an official DVD of the archive, but the sums didn't add up.

Because there's always the potential for the archive to become unworkable, the T&Cs say that continued access to is not guaranteed and I fear that if the choice was between investing in converting it to HTML5 of phasing it out, the business case would almost certainly be in favour of the latter.

Fortunately I am sure there will continue to be ways to run flash (although only 5% of websites use it now, down from 28% in 2011) for the forseeable future, but I'm afraid the onus will be on readers to seek these ways out.

So my advice is grit your teeth and find flash player/browser combination that works for you; I know it isn't ideal but it is doable.

What we can do is create a page with links to reliable flash players/browsers for viewing the archive on different platforms.

We have some suggestions already. If folks would like to post more links to what they recommend/use here, I'll create a page when there are enough suggestions for it to be worth doing.

Neil

Michael Gilligan10/07/2020 08:50:50
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Posted by JasonB on 10/07/2020 07:25:01:

I expect Neil's reply from a couple of months ago still stands.

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 20/04/2020 20:40:04:

The problem is the archives are not a significant source of income, at present they are added value for what is still a relatively modest number of people who prefer a digital subscription. Partly this is because pirate digital copies of archive issues have effectively removed the potential value of a rejuvenated archive.

[…]

So my advice is grit your teeth and find flash player/browser combination that works for you; I know it isn't ideal but it is doable.

What we can do is create a page with links to reliable flash players/browsers for viewing the archive on different platforms.

[…]

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... and if that is the best that can be done, then the Print edition of MEW remains my choice, and archival storage my responsibility.

MichaelG.

Neil Wyatt11/07/2020 10:02:21
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Posted by Brian G on 09/07/2020 12:47:59:

Bumped because I would also like to know if the archive will be re-issued. Since this was first raised back in 2017 there has been a format change for the newest content but it is still required to view most of the archive and Microsoft's announcement that "Flash will be completely removed from all browsers by December 31, 2020, via Windows Update." does appear pretty final.

Brian G

Microsoft can only remove flash players from their own browsers...

Neil

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