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Michael Gilligan08/04/2020 12:25:29
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Posted by ega on 08/04/2020 11:59:46:
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 08/04/2020 10:15:10:

This is a stereo pair [Stereoscopic, not Stereophonic] angel

The tip of a commercially manufactured wooden ‘gramophone needle’

... i.e. not a natural thorn

I wonder what is the "point" of the asymmetrical tip?

Did the needle have to be installed in a particular axial orientation?

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Forgive me for re-using your pun, but ...

I don't think there is any point ... the asymmetry appears to be accidental

... There are certainly no instructions provided regarding orientation.

MichaelG.

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Michael Gilligan08/04/2020 12:33:58
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Posted by Georgineer on 08/04/2020 12:05:00:
Posted by ega on 07/04/2020 16:42:15:

I remember hearing that thorns could be used in lieu of needles; can anyone confirm?

We still had some in about 1960, and a device for sharpening them. Dad said that they were made of hawthorn, though whether it was the actual thorn or turned from the wood of the stem I have no idea.

George B.

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Very likely to be the actual thorn, I would say: We have Hawthorn trees in the field behind the house, and some of the thorns are impressive to say the least [and they do make very good material for crafting miniature items]

I suspect [but have yet to find any proof] that thorns were harvested, and used for their special properties.

MichaelG.

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Edit: I have just looked at the [His Master's Voice] packet, and I see that the needles are described as thorn 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 08/04/2020 12:57:28

ega08/04/2020 15:25:55
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 08/04/2020 12:33:58:
Posted by Georgineer on 08/04/2020 12:05:00:
Posted by ega on 07/04/2020 16:42:15:

I remember hearing that thorns could be used in lieu of needles; can anyone confirm?

We still had some in about 1960, and a device for sharpening them. Dad said that they were made of hawthorn, though whether it was the actual thorn or turned from the wood of the stem I have no idea.

George B.

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Very likely to be the actual thorn, I would say: We have Hawthorn trees in the field behind the house, and some of the thorns are impressive to say the least [and they do make very good material for crafting miniature items]

I suspect [but have yet to find any proof] that thorns were harvested, and used for their special properties.

MichaelG.

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Edit: I have just looked at the [His Master's Voice] packet, and I see that the needles are described as thorn

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 08/04/2020 12:57:28

Not Thorn EMI, then!

Thanks for your reply above re the tip; I speculated that the shape might be a response to the difference between the inside and outside of the recording groove.

TomK08/04/2020 16:00:41
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Link to Percival Marshall recording

5th Posting down

TomK

on 08/04/2020 16:05:48

Edited By TomK on 08/04/2020 16:10:45

Jamie Taylor08/04/2020 16:09:21
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This is just the thing, thank you!

Michael Gilligan08/04/2020 17:35:43
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Posted by ega on 08/04/2020 15:25:55:

Not Thorn EMI, then!

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DC31k08/04/2020 18:14:34
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Well done TomK.

Now wouldn't it be good if we had a search that actually worked on this forum?

Perhaps Neil could record that message and play it a few times to his bosses. It would be well worth the 2/6.

Oven Man08/04/2020 18:32:48
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Before 1921, sterling silver, 1921 to 1947, some silver but I don't remember the proportion.

I just mention it for information, I don't advise defacing the coinage!!!

Best Regards,

Swarf, Mostly!

Thankyuo SM for that information - very useful. They were collected by my father and somewhere I have the list he made with all the dates of the collection. I will have a look and see if there is anything valuable.

Peter

Neil Wyatt08/04/2020 20:26:12
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 08/04/2020 17:35:43:
Posted by ega on 08/04/2020 15:25:55:

Not Thorn EMI, then!

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Have you followed the link to the Percival Marshall recording?

Neil

Jamie Taylor08/04/2020 20:28:33
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I have. Think it might be a touch fast. I love it though, it really sums up what its all about.

Michael Gilligan08/04/2020 20:49:54
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 08/04/2020 20:26:12:
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 08/04/2020 17:35:43:
Posted by ega on 08/04/2020 15:25:55:

Not Thorn EMI, then!

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Have you followed the link to the Percival Marshall recording?

Neil

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Yes, of course, Neil

... I did try to protect your income of Florins though angel

MichaelG.

Michael Gilligan13/04/2020 12:35:43
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 08/04/2020 12:33:58:.

Edit: I have just looked at the [His Master's Voice] packet, and I see that the needles are described as thorn

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Just for the record :

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ega13/04/2020 13:42:21
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Nice one, MichaelG!

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