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Pete.06/04/2020 00:35:24
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I've been looking for one of these to restore for a while, lots in the US normally up for sale, I'm searching 'sensitive drill press' but not finding any results, am I not not search the correct thing? The little sensitive drills normally used by jewellers etc, not to be confusing with really modern Chinese drills.

Nigel Graham 206/04/2020 00:59:48
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Have you tried variants on the name, such as 'sensitive drilling machine', or 'sensitive bench drill'?

Just a thought....

Bob Stevenson06/04/2020 01:00:23
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Hemingway kits do a kit for a pillar tool which has a sensitive dilling function...

http://www.hemingwaykits.com/cgi-bin/sh000029.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ehemingwaykits%2ecom%2facatalog%2fTrent_Pinion_Mill%2ehtml&WD=drill&PN=Universal_Pillar_Tool%2ehtml%23aHK_201268#aHK_201268

DC31k06/04/2020 07:17:05
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Possibly 'high speed' drill might help. The 'press' in your search term may be hindering you. Could you post a link to a picture of a typical one as that may help us to suggest more. When you say 'skeletonised', it makes me think of Bradson-style drills which may not be what you want.

Michael Gilligan06/04/2020 07:43:19
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Pete

Is this the style of machine you are looking to restore ?

**LINK**

https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/high-speed-drilling-machine-we2/?v=79cba1185463

MichaelG.

Steve Crow06/04/2020 09:05:01
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Hi Pete

Do you mean like this one?

champion1.jpg

This is a drawing of my Champion No1. Made in England from the 30's to the 50's. They come up on ebay occasionally, prices vary hugely according to condition. The rear pulleys were missing on mine so I made my own. The handle isn't shown on this drawing.

Steve

Edited By Steve Crow on 06/04/2020 09:06:27

Nicholas Farr06/04/2020 13:28:55
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Hi Pete, I think this is the Piller Tool what Bob has referred too. Some years ago, I revamped my fathers Bonds Maximus drill, which stands about 500mm high an has a 100mm round table, but it doesn't swivel like the one show in Steve's drawing but is a similar design.

drill.jpg

You can see it in the background in the photo below, where it was driven by his line shafting.

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I have a different one that wasn't originally a sensitive one, but I converted it to a sensitive balanced one for drilling and tapping.

drill 02.jpg

I bought it at a Steam Engine Rally many years ago, which is shown in the next photo as it was then.

drill 03.jpg

This conversion was done with virtually used materials, the motor came from an old electric typewriter. This drill stands about 560mm high and has a 110mm round table and is a fair bit heavier than the Bonds one.

Regards Nick.

Edited By Nicholas Farr on 06/04/2020 13:42:57

IanT06/04/2020 13:51:33
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I like the 'straight' belt drive you've arranged there Nicholas - I'm thinking of converting my Cowells to something similar - using 90 degree drive-pulleys seems to come with a lot of belt slap.

Regards,

IanT

Steve Crow06/04/2020 18:26:41
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Ebay link

Words fail me.

Steve Crow06/04/2020 18:32:12
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Here is one similar to Nicholas's first pictures - Link.

Nicholas Farr06/04/2020 18:57:54
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Hi Steve, yes it is the same model, first time I've ever seen a second one, looks as is it need a complete strip down and clean, plus a drop or two of paint and a proper base and attention to the electrics.

Regards Nick.

Plasma06/04/2020 19:55:04
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There is a champion no 2 on ebay at the moment but £225 looks a bit dear to me. Plus it's in lovely condition.

Are they called camel back pillar drills rather than skeleton type?

Not a lot of work to make one from scratch to be honest.

Mick

Pete.07/04/2020 00:34:44
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Michael, Steve, yes that's the general gist of what I'm looking for, the older the better.

Pete.07/04/2020 00:39:10
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Nick, that's the sort of thing, doesn't need to be a 'sensitive drill' I don't need it to use, just want an old one as a restoration project.

Pete.07/04/2020 00:42:24
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Plasma, I saw the champion no2 on ebay, looks nice, bit bigger than wanted, but looks like it'll be a nice drill for someone, I'd happily pay the asking price for that condition.

Pete.07/04/2020 00:46:41
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Nigel, I've tried search

Vintage small drill, small bench drill, small drill Press, precision drill Press, and just drill with search results limited to used items, I think I've tried numerous other search terms that I can't remember now.

Pete.07/04/2020 00:49:36
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Dc33, I had a look at bradsons, they seem to be hand cranked, so not what looking for, but some of them are nice, thanks

Pete.07/04/2020 00:53:42
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 06/04/2020 07:43:19:

Pete

Is this the style of machine you are looking to restore ?

**LINK**

https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/high-speed-drilling-machine-we2/?v=79cba1185463

MichaelG.

The plans look good, as I don't need it practically, I just want something old for a rest project, interesting for future reference though, thanks.

oldvelo07/04/2020 08:32:28
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Posted by Steve Crow on 06/04/2020 18:26:41:

Ebay link

Words fail me.

Looks like a Black & Decker dril press. I doubt if you will find a hand drill to fit. My sister in law worked for B & D in the 50's on testing drills off the production line 40 hours of use and failure were very common.

Circlip07/04/2020 10:09:00
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And the best parts to rescue from the B&D press are the handle and the spring.

 

Regards Ian.

Edited By Circlip on 07/04/2020 10:09:43

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