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Well how about this. For all the following Bev is my Ex, Ex wife. Don't ask. Anyway i call her my other half but in truth she is my Landlady, best of friends, I digress as usual. Bev is a nurse at a private clinic, which closed last Friday , due to the pandemic. She was able to go work at the NHS or stay at home on 80%. She was going to go to the NHS. It turns out that the NHS will only pay NHS money, which is way less than Bev's 80%. A friend of hers went back to the NHS a couple of months ago for a better job she specialises in. Today she rang Bev to ask of the situation at work. She told her the situation.

The woman said to her do not come here. The nurses are dropping like flies. We have had 4 in our team go sick this week alone. It is a proper mess. No proper PPE. She said the masks that are approved come from abroad & they can not get any for obvious reasons. They are not made in this country.

The kids have been ringing mum a lot today begging her not to go. The other thing she has been told is that if she signs up she will probably be sent to the London area & be put up in a Hotel. The thing with Bev is she cares about people & not about herself. She is still considering going.

Steve.

Coronavirus Pandemic, day 24.

If anyone is still out there, I’m alive but struggling. Food is running low. Down to only 459 days worth. My hands are super sanitized and my bottom is super clean. Down to 2399 rounds of ammo (dropped 1 round down the heat vent while doing daily inventory). Power still on, but for how long? Missing human interaction but I have my dogs.. for now.. (I'm soaking their food in BBQ sauce in an attempt to marinate them from the inside in case I have to eat them) . I fear dark days ahead. News is all bad. Neighbors have attempted to leap from windows to their death, (or near death... most have single story homes so they are badly bruised). Blew through most Netflix series so may have to rewatch some again..Basic Survival is a definite challenge. I vow to persevere to the end, I am a survivor! Please, if there is life out there, communicate with me to help preserve my sanity..

* Danny M *

I'm not so unfortunate as I have lots & lots of Heinz soups stored away. & a lathe + a super milling machine.

Steve.

Well it sounds rough Danny but at least your boat didn't sink with loss of all hands in the 8" deep wading pool. You've still got a round of ammo for each roll of TP in the stash. It's not all bad. Step away from that first floor kitchen window. Signed, the other survivor.

It is actually people like this who make me feel a bit sad QLD billionaire gives no rent relief to affected tenants

I know a few wealthy people, some are sympathetic such as this bloke Twiggy Forrest

If I had a $1 million tucked away for a rainy day then maybe cutting a bit of slack to the people who helped me make such a fortune would be the decent thing to do.

But then, some people get to be billionaires by just being ruthless bast***s.

That's the world that we live in, unfortunately!

* Danny M *

Pleased to report my daughter is much better this morning and looking forward to going back to work in a few days. She's allowed because fully recovered people won't catch it again and can't spread it.

Turns out I'm still a dangerous risk to society! As I might be incubating the bug due to herself, I have to stay indoors...

Dave

Dave,

I'm very glad to hear that your daughter is recovering and I hope you remain uninfected.

There are too many unknowns. It isn't yet known what degree of immunity will be developed by people who recover, thus there is no certainty that repeat infections won't occur. It seems that viable viruses can be recovered from the faeces of people who have recovered and it's not yet known for how long. Even virus-free people can act as intermediaries in an infection chain, especially when infection is frequently via surface contamination.

Sorry to pour cold water on what is an optimistic time for you both, but I would suggest your daughter exercisse caution and delays a return to the outside world for a bit. And also keep up your own high level of household precautions.

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Very glad to hear of your daughter’s recovery, Dave

MichaelG.

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P.S. ... I’m sure that exposure to a mere virus wouldn’t stop you being “a dangerous risk to society!”

Keep up the good work !!

This thread has now reached 34 pages and there are many comments ranging from real health problems to worries about deliveries. This forum has members spread around the world and this problem is global.

We have known about this virus since December last year (first case in China in November), and we saw impressive footage of the Chinese building two hospitals in January within two weeks. That worried me then, as China wouldn't have gone to those lengths if it wasn't serious, but I was told by friends and family not to be so alarmist, it's just media hype etc etc. Why didn't so many countries around the world sit up and take notice?

We are suffering now in the UK because of lack of action and correct strategy by our government who to date have shown they are incapable of actually governing. We were under resourced right from the start and they are now trying to play catch up. We were just advised to keep on washing hands whilst singing happy Birthday. Stay indoors unless absolutely necessary, which in the main we are all complying with. However, as I write this an Alitalia flight is in the air routing from Rome to Heathrow. Three flights from JFK will take off today routing to Heathrow. These are just two examples, NO checks or quarantine for passengers when they arrive! ALL airports should be closed except for urgent cargo.

My question for our so-called government is Why? When we are doing our bit by self isolating and fearful of going out to buy food, are you still allowing infection into the country on a daily basis? I do understand it's tough for those who went on holiday during the this time and find themselves stranded, but most were aware of the risk before they went. They should be quarantined where they are until fit to come back. This is a global problem and should be treated as such. Maybe it's time for the UN to get involved?

South Korea for instance stopped all travel and tested their population right from the start and they are now recovering. Tough measures bringing faster results. Simple!

I hope you all manage to stay safe, wherever you are. For those living alone it's essential to try and keep positive as this could drag on for longer than we realise. Unfortunately no one knows and that fuels anxiety.

SODD rules OK!

You stay safe too Dave,

pgk

Just prior to the threat, I had my ears 'de-waxed'. Some small residue, apparently, but no real problem from my point of view. Follow-up appointment booked for this coming week. This would have entailed driving 15 miles to hospital, waiting in crowded waiting room etc. I assumed that it would be cancelled automatically but I 'phoned yesterday to confirm ... no such intention!!! Even when I pointed out that a second visit was unnecessary, they insisted that I had to provide them with a valid reason to cancel!!! I presume that it is down to the 'stats' required for 'performance' assessment. What was that about 'commonsense'?

rgds

Bill

Hi RMA

Totally agree with all of the points you raise, seems we are still way behind the game especially with testing.

Emgee

RMA - agreed. Funny that the 'money markets' are still going, apparently without impediment... Must say something about priorities.

I think I read recently that the tubes were still running in London. Is that true? Criminal idiocy if it is.

Edited By Kiwi Bloke on 01/04/2020 10:25:28

Must remember to keep moving else I get "Dysoned"

Lol

Mine had an episode yesterday so she's totally knackered today and its nice and quiet

The police stopped us going to the local big park for dog walking where we could avoid everybody, so now we pound the local streets with everybody

10 days in, 80 to go

Good point - she's taking advice and won't leave the house until confirmed it's OK. She and I are keeping our distance and taking all usual precautions.

I'm not sure what the latest statistics are on repeat infections. Although cases were reported from China and Italy early on, it's not been mentioned much since. I guess the statistics aren't in yet. In China, South Korea and other Asian countries, the virus looks to have peaked. We'll know more when they relax their lock-downs and people start circulating. If there's a problem, the disease will kick-off again. If it stays down we can relax a bit!

Keeping it in perspective, worldwide 43,271 deaths so far. Tiny compared with the 1918 flu pandemic - it killed between 50 and 100 million people. I don't believe it's known what made the 1918 virus so vicious, but in addition to it being exceptionally nasty many people were in poor health in 1918, treatments were primitive, and there was no lock down. We have to count our blessings!

Dave

It's the democracy you voted for. Well not really 'cos I still argue about the none of the above option..
A reality check on these guys... having a few billion doesn't mean you've got it in cash under the bed. My own million that I had 2 mths ago (untouched pensions) has just become £400K less and i have no income these days.
Your example of Twiggy Forest..As I read that it's his charitable foundations (AKA tax relief and kudos and chance to rub shoulders with the other Nobs) that sourced/bought the stuff and plans to sell it to the state at 'cost' - which doubtless will include the freight, staff costs, phone calls etc. But excellent publicity for him and another step towards his knighthood or whatever. He isn't actually giving anything away.
Or perhaps I'm just cynical.

Here UK we've just heard that banks aren't paying out dividends to their shareholders to keep money around to help the economy. On central bank advice. Some of those shareholders were probably depending on that divvy for their income so essentially it's gov ripping off it's public to hang on to cash. Believe me its going to be us that pays for coronavirus one way or the other while the elite line their pockets, state how tough it all was and go have another conference banquet.

pgk

Spanish flu lasted 2 years. we're into 3-4mths and it hasn't kicked of fully in the third world. We're 'flattening' the peak but not stopping it. If there is any government plan it's to keep things at a level where they can try to treat most people but let everyone catch it 'cos they can't stop it. If the true mortality rate is circa 2-3% then short of everyone obeying totalitarian rules forever it's going to go through at least 4 billion population in democracies. The math is frightening.

I can only hope I'm wrong

pgk