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Jim Beagley21/02/2020 18:43:22
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Hi all.

I’ve been banging various bits of material with various tools since I can remember.
I have a reasonable workshop, and have recently done lots of work on my Sabel lathe to get it into a more accurate and useable state.
My latest ambition is to make a Stuart model of some kind, but I don’t have a mill at the moment.
I will be looking for advice regards milling on the lathe, as I’ve not got a vertical slide or a mill or even a 4 jaw at this point in time

Anyway, looking forward to some banter,

Jim

Brian H21/02/2020 20:44:26
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Hello Jim and welcome. My first model from castings was a V10 by Stuart but it was so long ago I cannot remember if a had a mill or a vertical slide!

Either way, these Stuart models are excellent for people who have little or no experience with castings and Stuart castings are normally of excellent quality, but if you find one that isn't, they will immediately replace it.

Hopefully someone with more experience of using a vertical slide will be along soon with some more informative answers.

All the best with your modelling and please keep us posted on your decisions, they are sure to be helpful to others.

Brian

Jim Beagley21/02/2020 23:09:27
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Thanks Brian.
First I need to get a new backplate for the Sabel to fit a 4 Jaw.
I think I fancy the D10

Steviegtr21/02/2020 23:36:41
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Welcome & looking forward to seeing some of your work.

Steve.

Jim Beagley21/02/2020 23:49:18
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Cheers Steve.

Pete Rimmer22/02/2020 20:18:36
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Welcome Jim.

What part of Kent are you? I'm in North Kent.

Pete.

Jim Beagley22/02/2020 20:26:55
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Hi Pete. I’m in Maidstone. I guess that’s fairly Middle.

Pete Rimmer22/02/2020 20:33:12
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Not far from me in Gravesend. The Sabel is a nice small machine based of course on the South Bend 9". I have a South Bend heavy 10 nearing completion.

I never saw a Sabel in the flesh but all the examples I read of seem to suffer from pronounced wear in the cross slide ways. Even a minor amount of scraping can give a drastic improvement if you're getting any rocking in the cross or compound slides.

Balljoint22/02/2020 22:49:49
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Hi Jim

Welcome aboard. Did you ever belong to Croydon Airport Model Flying Club

Regrds

Colin

Jim Beagley22/02/2020 22:53:13
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Hi Colin. Yes I did!

I guess we must know each other?

Balljoint22/02/2020 23:01:21
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Yes we do, you taught me to fly fixed wing when I joined the club

Jim Beagley22/02/2020 23:27:53
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Posted by Balljoint on 22/02/2020 23:01:21:

Yes we do, you taught me to fly fixed wing when I joined the club

That’s good to know

are you still flying?

Jim Beagley23/02/2020 10:10:00
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Posted by Pete Rimmer on 22/02/2020 20:33:12:

Not far from me in Gravesend. The Sabel is a nice small machine based of course on the South Bend 9". I have a South Bend heavy 10 nearing completion.

I never saw a Sabel in the flesh but all the examples I read of seem to suffer from pronounced wear in the cross slide ways. Even a minor amount of scraping can give a drastic improvement if you're getting any rocking in the cross or compound slides.

Hi Pete.
I have recently replaced the cross slide screw and nut on the Sabel with one from a Boxford which has improved the accuracy no end.
The compound slide had about 0.5mm of backlash due to wear of the dial and mating face which I have now shimmed with brass and it too is much better.
I've adjusted the ways on both with the gibs but would be interested in hearing more about your idea of scraping.
immust admit that I’m not a trained engineer at all so most finer techniques are unknown to me.
Thanks for your ideas.

Jim

Edited By Jimminy on 23/02/2020 10:10:49

John Hinkley23/02/2020 10:36:28
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Welcome to the forum, Jim. If your machining is anything like the accuracy of the timing of your last post, you should easily be able make the Stuart model! I've only managed to hit the exact minute posting once in nearly 800 posts.

Regards,

John

Bill Chugg23/02/2020 11:03:39
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Hello Lim

Welcome on board

I think Jason posted back along saying he made a Stuart 10H on the lathe without needing a mill but stand to be corrected.

Bill

Bill Chugg23/02/2020 11:03:40
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Hello Jim

Welcome on board

I think Jason posted back along saying he made a Stuart 10H on the lathe without needing a mill but stand to be corrected.

Bill

Edited By Bill Chugg on 23/02/2020 11:04:03

Amended to add as follows posted by Neil - Moderator.

 

I followed the Andrew Smith/Pengwern booklet that Stuart sell and did all of a 10V on the lathe. For the 10H you don't have to machine the standard, although the bed is more challenging.

Neil

 

Edited By Bill Chugg on 23/02/2020 11:07:30

Edited By Bill Chugg on 23/02/2020 11:08:45

Jim Beagley23/02/2020 13:32:58
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Posted by John Hinkley on 23/02/2020 10:36:28:

Welcome to the forum, Jim. If your machining is anything like the accuracy of the timing of your last post, you should easily be able make the Stuart model! I've only managed to hit the exact minute posting once in nearly 800 posts.

Regards,

John

Haha thanks John. My tolerances are never normally that good.
cheers for the welcome.
Jim

Balljoint24/02/2020 18:37:44
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Posted by Jim Beagley on 22/02/2020 23:27:53:
Posted by Balljoint on 22/02/2020 23:01:21:

Yes we do, you taught me to fly fixed wing when I joined the club

That’s good to know

are you still flying?

After burning the house down with a lipo fire, the wife wasn't to keen on me carrying on, and then I had some cataract problems and thought it was time to give up flying and concentrate on my Locos.

Haven't flown for the last 5 years, But I still stay in touch with a few of the old members

Jim Beagley24/02/2020 19:30:43
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Posted by Balljoint on 24/02/2020 18:37:44:
Posted by Jim Beagley on 22/02/2020 23:27:53:
Posted by Balljoint on 22/02/2020 23:01:21:

Yes we do, you taught me to fly fixed wing when I joined the club

That’s good to know

are you still flying?

After burning the house down with a lipo fire, the wife wasn't to keen on me carrying on, and then I had some cataract problems and thought it was time to give up flying and concentrate on my Locos.

Haven't flown for the last 5 years, But I still stay in touch with a few of the old members

Wow - burning the house down is a bit extreme. Hope that all got sorted.
Is is Colin H?

Jim Beagley24/02/2020 19:31:47
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Posted by Bill Chugg on 23/02/2020 11:03:40:

Hello Jim

Welcome on board

I think Jason posted back along saying he made a Stuart 10H on the lathe without needing a mill but stand to be corrected.

Bill

Edited By Bill Chugg on 23/02/2020 11:04:03

Amended to add as follows posted by Neil - Moderator.

I followed the Andrew Smith/Pengwern booklet that Stuart sell and did all of a 10V on the lathe. For the 10H you don't have to machine the standard, although the bed is more challenging.

Neil

Edited By Bill Chugg on 23/02/2020 11:07:30

Edited By Bill Chugg on 23/02/2020 11:08:45

Hi Bill, and thanks for the welcome and the link.

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