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Derek Allum14/01/2020 17:31:13
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Well the lathe turned up today not had chance to test it, not very happy with the wiring as it’s just taped up in places but nothing I can’t sort out , I will make sure everything else is ok first.

Michael I will measure column when I get a chance.

I noticed it hasn’t got any chuck tommy bars so if anyone has a spare pair willing to sell please let me know.

Dell

Andy Carlson14/01/2020 18:12:58
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Posted by Derek Allum on 14/01/2020 17:31:13:

Well the lathe turned up today not had chance to test it, not very happy with the wiring as it’s just taped up in places but nothing I can’t sort out , I will make sure everything else is ok first.

I noticed it hasn’t got any chuck tommy bars so if anyone has a spare pair willing to sell please let me know.

I think you have just found the first job for you to make on the lathe then. My first job on the SL was the same.

The electrics on my SL were fine but my other 3 lathes all needed a complete refurb of their wiring before I was willing to start using them.

Regards, Andy

Derek Allum14/01/2020 18:13:02
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Derek Allum14/01/2020 18:15:16
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Not sure what the thing is in the last picture it has a hexagon head and a tapered end anyone got any idea?
Dell

Andy Carlson14/01/2020 18:18:27
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I thought it was the locking pin for the swivelling headstock but I think that would be parallel, not tapered. Mine is missing so I dont really know what they look like.

Hollowpoint14/01/2020 18:40:45
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It is indeed a locking/locating pin for the headstock. I think he meant the end is chamfered rather her than tapered.

Derek Allum14/01/2020 19:46:18
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Sorry yes I did mean chamfered.

Derek Allum14/01/2020 20:34:20
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Michael

the column is 1 1/4”

Michael Gilligan14/01/2020 20:59:04
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Posted by Derek Allum on 14/01/2020 20:34:20:

Michael

the column is 1 1/4”

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Thanks for the confirmation

... I now have to rack my remaining brain cells, in hope of remembering which enlarger it came from.

[ not that it really matters ]

MichaelG.

Neil Wyatt15/01/2020 16:56:14
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If it's from an enlarger it is probably going to flex under heavy cuts as it will be relatively thin wall tube.

If this happens, it won't be ridiculously expensive to replace it, perhaps with a solid bar.

Might be worth beefing up the base board as well, I forsee much flexing when milling otherwise.

The lathe itself is a nice wee machine,some nice articles on accessories by Terry Gorin about four/five years ago in Model Engineer's Workshop.

Neil

peak415/01/2020 17:28:12
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 15/01/2020 16:56:14:

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Might be worth beefing up the base board as well, I forsee much flexing when milling otherwise.

The lathe itself is a nice wee machine,some nice articles on accessories by Terry Gorin about four/five years ago in Model Engineer's Workshop.

Neil

For a substantial solid baseboard, check out your local kitchen worktop fitter, or ebay for a slab of granite kitchen worktop.
Slow to drill, but OK with a diamond bit, and cuts fine with a dry-cutting diamond angle grinder disk in a hand circular saw, though you do need to make a hole size adaptor for the blade.
That's why you bought a lathe isn't it, for making little bits and bobs as well as models.
Depending on the accuracy you need, it should also allow for sliding a height gauge round the base when setting up/marking out.

Bill

Derek Allum17/01/2020 18:52:05
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I 5e5d68bd-460a-4749-8ed3-3ead80bbdfd3.jpegWell I don’t seem to have any luck regarding lathes yesterday I got the chance to have a look at the lathe and I noticed that the live terminals were exposed as are the DC terminals and I was going to teach my grandson to use it, if he put his hand on there at the very least he would be sent across the room and at the worst it could kill him see pictures.

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I have a friend who is an electrician coming to look at it next week ,as you may guess the seller doesn’t want to know so I have put it in the hands of Paypal, will let them sort it out .

That is the trouble with eBay nothing is checked as to weather it is safe to sell and in my opinion it is dangerous to have exposed 220volt AC and 220volt DC terminals exposed.

Dell

jimmy b17/01/2020 19:16:04
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Simply looks like a missing cover.

Jim

Michael Gilligan17/01/2020 19:20:49
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Frustrating as it is, Derek ... that should be just a simple rewire job.

Let’s hope the previous owner was a better mechanic than electrician !

... Fortunately it does look that way.

MichaelG.

jimmy b17/01/2020 19:24:38
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I know I'm a better engineer than electrician.....

Derek Allum17/01/2020 19:44:01
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Going to see what the electrician thinks next week .

the shaft bearings are shot as well but that is easy to sort .

Andy Carlson17/01/2020 19:45:26
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If it was me then I'd be sorting out the electrics to a point where I was happy with them. This is what I've done with three of my lathes (two from eBay one bought privately). It's delaying day when you can use the machine but once it's done it's done.

I'd be wanting an outer casing around those terminals, something like Hammond plastic project boxes from RS or similar. I'd want strain relief grommets on the cables where they enter the outer box so that if the cables are pulled the force is not baing taken by the electrical terminals. Also check the fuses in the plugs - 3A is probably plenty but all of mine arrived with 13A.

For bigger machines I'd want an NVR power switch and maybe an emergency stop button but I dont have either on my Unimat.

I've no idea where you stand if you want to complain to the seller or eBay. The discussion threads I've seen seem pretty rambling and inconclusive on this point.

Regards, Andy

SillyOldDuffer17/01/2020 19:53:54
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Wouldn't worry me at all - the connections just need to be covered, either with a insulated sheet or by putting the whole lot in a box. If that's all that's wrong with a second-hand lathe of that age, you got off lightly!

Can you let us know how this pans out with ebay and PayPal? Buying second-hand can be a minefield when it goes wrong, and it will be reassuring if this dispute is fixed to your and the sellers satisfaction.

Good luck,

Dave

Derek Allum20/01/2020 19:14:33
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The chap I purchased the Unimat lathe off decided to have the lathe back and refund my money, So I have bitten the bullet and purchased a Cowells 90ME ( I think I need to have a lie down).

i know I am a fussy sod but I wouldn’t be happy teaching my grandson to use it as I wasn’t happy to use it myself.

i still have the case open with PayPal as I haven’t got refund yet because I have only just sent it, but the fact that he has agreed that I can return it will go in my favour if I have to go back to Paypal .

i am looking for some accessories for it the shaft is 14X1.5 if anyone has a chuck lying around they want to sell please PM me.

Thanks Dell

Bill Chugg20/01/2020 19:29:02
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Derek

Sorry to hear of your problems. That wiring is atrocious and sending back was spot on.

There seems to be too many bad sellers on ebay these days. We have had to send back three out of four items purchased last week as not as described ie damage not shown in ebay photos.

Trust the Cowells will be a much happier experience for you. and your grandson

Bill

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