The end is nigh?
|Brian G||17/10/2019 18:36:30|
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An announcement yesterday by Yahoo means that all existing content on groups will be lost. Hopefully any forum members who are members of groups are already aware (or on groups.io) but I thought a heads-up might be useful.
"Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created content on its sites. New content can no longer be uploaded after October 28, 2019. Sending/Receiving email functionality is not going away, you can continue to communicate via any email client with your group members. Learn more "
(I had to type the message as paste doesn't work, but I was able to paste the link into it.)
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May I suggest that this thread is used for notification of positive moves by relevant groups to a new home. ie a completed transition that has been tested and confirmed to work not the vague suggestions of a move to groups.io or somewhere else that are being bandied around at the moment.
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Thanks for the heads up. The Drummondlathes group on there is a valuable resource. I have copied most of the files section but hopefully somewhere on the net will be found for a more publicly accessible repository.
|Clive Foster||18/10/2019 14:08:57|
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I'm a member of four ex Yahoo groups that made the jump to Groups.io.
No great issues reported beyond corruption of a few files, a few photos going missing and an inability to deal properly with mail attachments. Most closely connected with the Bridgeport Mill group transition. Being the outgoing moderator for the Yahoo group I'd expected to be roped in for loose end tidying as the new management got to grips with things but in the event the only thing I had to do was correct three of my own contributed files which had become corrupted and re-direct a few membership requests from the old group to new. We did have the luxury of leaving the old group up, albeit moribund, for a couple of months so anything identified as corrupt could be grabbed from the old data.
Free switching to Groups.io has gone. You have to set up a Premium group to switch which costs about £100 a year. Far as I can see all the old Yahoo groups intend to drop back to the lower tier Free groups after the first year. Free groups are very similar to the old Yahoo and seem good enough for what folk like us want to do. Premium has much greater data storage and many bells and whistle that are excellent if you need them. Data limits on the Free version seem to be more than sufficient. I saw discussion in another place concerning moving a very data and photo heavy group. The owner seemed confident that free would do.
Reading the official "Things are changing" E-Mail from Yahoo central its clear they have completely missed that the files / data / photos store is, to folk like us, a primary purpose of such groups. Yahoo say the communications between members is primarily by E-Mail so no need for the data storage. Well DoH, the E-Mail bit is how we communicate but the steady build up of how it works, how to fix, what to get for, this is what it should look like yadda yadda yadda in the files is why we hang around. On an E-Mail or social meadia based system you end up having the the same question asked umpty-six times until thems-what-know get fed up and down pens (keyboards!).
No data reposity beyond photo albums is a weakness of this forum, search only gets you so far especially on popular topics where the number of returns can be overwhelming. Be a nice topic for an AI mavern to develop a forum post distilling bot able to turn many posts on subject into a coherent "how to do it" / "all about it" et al file. At 65 I don't expect to live long enough to see that sorted properly tho'.
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The Drummond group has moved to groups.io
or search for drummondlathe
Edited By Bazyle on 10/11/2019 20:33:30
|Mike Poole||10/11/2019 21:41:07|
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The Myford group has transitioned to groups.io relatively smoothly. Hopefully a revenue stream exists to keep these groups alive. Remember that nothing is free, your data has a value and will be exploited.
|Mark Rand||10/11/2019 22:39:41|
|798 forum posts|
Ah, what happened to the days when everybody used Usenet? It's still there, but web based fora seem to have relegated it to the sidelines.
And yes, Yahoo used to leech a number of Usenet groups without advertising the fact.
Edited By Mark Rand on 10/11/2019 22:40:41
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Following on from Bazle's comment I can confirm the following groups moved from Yahoo to iO groups.
Emco F1 cnc milling machine join page: https://emcof1cncmill.groups.io/g/main
Denford Orac cnc lathe join page : https://groups.io/g/DenfordOracCNClathe
Emco Compact 5 cnc lathe join page: https://groups.io/g/Emco5CNClathe
These are at the present free to use groups with a data limit of 1GB.
All data in Yahoo Groups will be lost after the 14th December so any group that hasn't ordered a move by now may not get the existing data transferred.
If you are a member of any group that hasn't moved there is a program called PGonline that can download all yahoo group data for your group and save in a database, but be quick or it's lost.
Edited By Emgee on 10/11/2019 23:27:45
Edited By Emgee on 10/11/2019 23:32:14
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Many thanks for that, I've not tried it yet, but I think it might be PG offline.
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Yes Bill, you are correct to point out my confusing statement, it's offline but available online !!!!
|colin brannigan||11/11/2019 12:37:00|
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Velocette owners forum have just moved from Yahoo to groups.io
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Groups at Groups.io
12x36importlathes - covers Chinese made lathes from 11in to 14in, warco, chester etc.
Drummondlathe - includes shaper
mam+Pantograph-Engravers - subgroup of MAM covers Taylor Hobson, Alexander, Gorton etc and die-sinkers
ElliottMachineTools - includes lathes and grinders and milling machines
4x6Bandsaw - the common metal cutting saws
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