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duncan webster20/06/2019 14:05:47
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Many years ago I made an electronic tacho for my lathe, using a design I got from somewhere forgotten in the mists of time. It used a PIC programmed in very arcane code. Works fine, but as it updates very very quickly the last digit flickers, and the display is a bit dull. When I fitted VFD to my milling machine I had to make my own tacho as the only sensible pulley to fit the sensor went at a different speed to the main spindle. That updates more slowly and is OK. Decided eventually to sort out the lathe one, and bought a Chinese tacho, no point making one at that price. Problem is the update rate is so slow it's difficult to adjust the spindle speed. OK if you just want to know what speed it's doing, but when adjusting by the time it updates you've gone way past. Original is now back in place, the new one can wait till I need to just measure rather than adjust something.

Of course I should have just plugged it in before making a very nice box for it to sit in!

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Michael Gilligan20/06/2019 15:32:21
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Posted by Barrie Lever on 20/06/2019 15:08:11:

I feel it is no co-incidence that all of the broken pieces of equipment in my workshop are from the PRC.

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If you have an iPad ... Just be careful to not take that into your workshop devil

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I.M. OUTAHERE20/06/2019 15:42:54
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Posted by Michael Gilligan on 20/06/2019 15:32:21:
Posted by Barrie Lever on 20/06/2019 15:08:11:

I feel it is no co-incidence that all of the broken pieces of equipment in my workshop are from the PRC.

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If you have an iPad ... Just be careful to not take that into your workshop devil

MichaelG.

Or just about any other electronic device !

Duncan ,

Did you consider using an Arduino to make your new Tachometer?  - plenty of sketches available and  adjusting the update frequency is simple enough .

Edited By XD 351 on 20/06/2019 15:48:53

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Michael Gilligan20/06/2019 16:40:06
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Sorry, Barry ... I was just teasing

Logic:

Statistical analysis would find two commonalities between the broken items in your workshop:

  1. They were all made in PRC
  2. They have all entered your workshop

I have no way of knowing which, if either, is causative.

MichaelG.

JasonB20/06/2019 16:43:28
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And the third, you bought them because they were cheaper than a quality brandwink 2

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Michael Gilligan20/06/2019 16:56:20
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surprise

By some remarkable fluke ... I just found this: **LINK**

https://www.made-in-china.com/products-search/hot-china-products/Multimeter_Fluke.html

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Ron Laden20/06/2019 17:26:29
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Barrie, probably produced for Fluke, most of the top mobile phones and cameras are made in China, like you suggest they can equal the best in the world but like top quality from any part of the world you have to pay for it.

John Smith 1320/06/2019 17:44:51
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I bought a WEN variable speed drilling machine with the same issue that the tacho takes several seconds to catch up with what's happening. I could live with this but the quill is such a sloppy fit that the drill bit blurs at high speed making it unusable for accurate work. I didn't get chance to use this before the 3 month warranty expired. I can see a major rebuild in its future or trip in a skip!!!!

John

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duncan webster20/06/2019 17:57:53
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Duncan ,

Did you consider using an Arduino to make your new Tachometer? - plenty of sketches available and adjusting the update frequency is simple enough .

Edited By XD 351 on 20/06/2019 15:48:53

Tacho on milling machine is driven by Arduino, it updates 4 times a second. Some of the code is my own work, but as with many Arduino projects you cab crib bits from other stuff o the interweb

john carruthers20/06/2019 18:41:18
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Fluke.

Fluke have 3 factories, 2 in PRC and one in Germany.
The Fluke multimeters are tested and callibrated on an instrument made in Deal, Kent, codename 'Baldrick'.
Each factory has 2 such testers.
The main problem in manufacture is the fake parts in the supply chain.
Even the PRC guys get caught out.

old mart20/06/2019 21:48:36
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I have Kennametal carbide inserts made in the USA, UK, Germany and China.

ronan walsh20/06/2019 22:56:13
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Quite a lot of the large motor manufacturers such as mercedes, BMW etc, have factories in China to make components, or complete cars for those regions. Triumph motorcycles are touted as being made in England, but again a lot is made abroad, Malaysia and India i believe, frames, suspension components, switchgear etc. The design and engines are made in the UK.

So saying anything is rubbish because its chinese, or made in the far east is fraught with danger.

Frances IoM20/06/2019 23:14:52
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The Fluke multimeters are tested and callibrated on an instrument .. codename 'Baldrick'.
I guess anything that passes this must be a fluke (always thought they had picked a very poor name for a supposed accurate instrument)
Clive Hartland20/06/2019 23:15:30
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When I had the Ford Granada, 3 times I was stranded because the cut off fuel solenoid failed. By this time I always had 2 or 3 spare in the car. I had one examined and x.rayed and it showed that a bunch of wire was sealed at the top of the solenoid, it was made in Mexico. A long phone call with Ford after sending microscope images elicited that they would replace it for me. Strangely after that I had no more incidents.

Neil Wyatt20/06/2019 23:44:06
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Posted by Barrie Lever on 20/06/2019 16:25:59:

You are a wise and learned man, can you name me 5 Chinese brand names in mainstream retail? No meaning or agenda in the question.

Interesting question...

Lenovo and Huawei for a start.

Neil

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