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JasonB14/06/2019 06:57:41
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As I said above Warco have not been selling it for long so maybe only 3 or 4 sold so chances of them all going to active forum members is slim.

You could ask further a field where the similar lathe is sold under a different model number by the likes of Weiss and Precision Matthews. (US market) Though that will probably be an imperial spec machine that may have NPT pitches.

old mart14/06/2019 21:23:40
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Something with a backgear would be preferable for threading. The backgear on the lathe I use slows the spindle by a factor of 7.1, down to a minimum of 30rpm.

Jed Martens21/07/2019 16:56:38
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Well, I'm committed. Nothing suitable has popped up on the second-hand market, and Warco have received their latest shipment of units, so I've signed on the dotted line. Delivered next week, hopefully...

Now to think about tooling...

Ian Thomson 223/07/2019 12:43:57
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Hi Jed,

I could have written the same post as you have above.

I am thinking how to lift it onto a bench before I worry about the tooling (although I do have some on order).

It had not been shipped yesterday when I phoned Warco, but hope to have it within a week or so.

Maybe we should start another thread: Getting up and running with a GH600?

Jed Martens23/07/2019 13:22:46
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Great idea Ian.

I certainly have some challenges getting it into position. I'm hoping a bunch of my work colleagues can be persuaded to lend a hand.

I haven't called Warco, so thanks for the shipping update.

Howard Lewis23/07/2019 16:28:52
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If you do not have access to a crane, you could lift the machine into place by jacking and packing. It will be slow, and you need to ensure that nothing is going to fall over during the process. Guy ropes would be a good safety precaution. Obviously, the packing needs to be the same at each end..

Once level with the bench, the machine can then be slid across into position, ready to be levelled (i.e. ensure that the bed is free of twist. ). It won't matter particularly if the headstock is slightly above or below the tailstock, unless you are using pumped coolant. the essential is to make sure that the the bed is not twisted, otherwise you are likely to turn a taper every time. The time spent installing the machine correctly will be well invested.

Howard.

Ian Thomson 223/07/2019 17:20:29
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I was going to hire a crane, but having watched this I don't think I will need it:

**LINK**

I weigh about 75Kg.

I don't need to lift it above my head so not expecting any problems at all.

Jed Martens24/07/2019 10:00:11
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Ahaha! If only it were that easy...

I think I'll be relying on some colleagues to provide the muscle to get the machine into the shed, and then the "jack and pack" method that Howard suggests for getting it up onto the stand.

FMES24/07/2019 11:36:17
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Hi Jed,

Check with Warco, when I had my GH1330 and Supermajor mill delivered they transported it on an electric pallet truck all the way down the drive and put them in the workshop where I wanted them.

Regards

Ian Thomson 224/07/2019 12:44:18
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The risk of the packing toppling puts me off trying to rock the lathe up.

The thought of trying to slide 160kg of steel between the jacked-up pile and the benchtop, both of which could move, fills me with dread.

I have nothing to hang the lathe from for insurance if it goes wrong.

Maybe I am missing something? Anyone got any pictures of how they achieved this, or can they point me in the direction of any videos?

I think I will be doing this on my own so am planning on hiring an engine hoist.

Jed Martens24/07/2019 13:16:16
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Hi Fmes, those electric pallet trucks are awesome, but unfortunately I've got some bumpy lawn, steps, and more lawn to negotiate to get to my shed. Good old fashioned manpower will have to suffice

Howard Lewis25/07/2019 12:30:51
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Ian,

PM me with your location,

With regard to "Jack and Pack", I did advise using guy ropes to guard against having the lathe as footwear!

If you are prepared to be patient and careful, it is surprising what can be achieved!

When lifting anything heavy, it is imperative to ensure personal safety, and minimal risk of damage to the load.

Howard

Ian Thomson 225/07/2019 12:59:49
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Hi Howard,

I re-read my post above. It was not meant to disagree with your advice, but I wrote it with the considerations of my circumstances and the equipment and fittings I have available. I can see how it could have been considered a bit rude, but it was not meant to be. Sorry if you read it that way.

When the lathe finally arrives I need to make a base to raise it up on. This will give me a couple of weeks to consider my options.

PM sent with location.

Howard Lewis25/07/2019 16:53:48
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No offence taken!

Replied to your PM

Howard

Ray Lyons25/07/2019 18:24:50
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When I bought my Warco BH600 many years ago, it arrived on a 36ft pallet truck. ( why did I think that delivery would be ba a short bed transit with hydraulic crane?) The driver could not reverse up the lane to my garage and I had visions of him dropping it on the road leaving me to sort it out. As it turned out, the driver was very helpful and having got the pallet off the lorry using a hand operated pallet mover, he helped steering it while i used my car and a heavy strop to tow it up a hill onto the flat outside the garage. Once we got there, the driver took over swinging the pallet around as if a toy putting it into the garage.

When it came to moving it into position, I jacked up the pallet and fitted castors allowing me to lever it into position. Lifting was carried out using an engine crane..

Some months later, I went to the Bristol Exhibition where Warco had a rather nice vertical mill. I was very tempted and booked into a local B&B so I could telephone my son that evening to check if there was enough room in the shed He was quite anxious that I did not buy since after the troubles with the lathe I would do myself some harm with a mill. Next morning, I came home, not wanting to be tempted by another visit to the Warco stand. I often regret not buying and perhaps getting a couple of strong hands to offload and install.

Jed Martens25/07/2019 19:43:18
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I've been informed by Warco that the lathe has shipped.

I appreciate emojis are frowned upon here, so I'll go with a gif...

Ian Thomson 225/07/2019 21:42:09
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That is good news. Should be getting mine very soon then.

Jed Martens30/07/2019 19:51:31
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Well, it has arrived. My first glimpse of it, as I walked down the drive to meet the delivery driver, was of the pallet laying on its side on the pavement, having tipped off the pallet trolley. Not a great start - I called Warco and we agreed I'd accept the delivery, un-box it and assess the damage, and we'd take it from there...

So, I built a timber frame around the crate with 4 handles, so that myself and 3 burly software engineers could shift it.

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Then it began its trip. First a small ramp and along the front of the house...

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Then up the big ramp... (kids are camping in the back yard)

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and finally to the shed...

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where it is currently sitting on the concrete floor while I build up the stand and get it in position. It is most certainly a 4-person job shifting one of these things...

I can't see any visible signs of damage. I've powered it up and it seems to run ok. The levers all do what they are supposed to. Once I get it on the stand I'll start checking that everything is straight and true. I've measured the spindle run-out (not that I have any idea if this is a significant measurement or not) and it is less than 0.01mm. So far so good, I suppose...

Edited By Jed Martens on 30/07/2019 19:52:55

Ian Thomson 230/07/2019 20:33:03
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I have been waiting for the update to see how it came. I wasn't expecting to see 'on it's side'.

It doesn't look like it is top heavy - how on earth did they manage that?

Mine is coming Thursday so hope I have more luck.

That does look like an assault course. I only have to get it into a single garage straight off the drive. The delivery company said they should be okay doing that.

Jed Martens30/07/2019 20:56:12
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The Warco crate that contains the lathe is fairly solid. The stand is separate, so the crate is long and low, and as the lathe is bolted to the base, reasonably balanced. However, someone had decided to pop that onto a standard euro-pallet, which didn't support the length of the crate. Then the boxes with the base were piled on top, at one end - the head-stock end obviously. The result tipped over easily when the delivery guy turned the pallet truck.

He did say it toppled over gently. I was sceptical, but it looks ok so far. Once I can prove to myself the ways are true I'll be happy.

I have a lot of sympathy for those delivery guys, they're not the guys that package up the pallets, but they do end up dealing with the mess when things go wrong.

edit : I should also praise our local postie, who happily helped myself and the driver get the crate the right way up.

Edited By Jed Martens on 30/07/2019 20:57:22

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