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Colin Whittaker28/05/2019 15:44:55
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Just released on HBO in the US and available to the rest of us by devious means if you know how.

The story of the Chernobyl Nuclear Reactor Explosion in episodes (now up to 3).

It's a real bastard of a heavy engineering disaster story. Be thankful you never had anything to do with it.

This TV series has moved me. Please, no jokes.

Colin

J Hancock28/05/2019 15:57:25
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We are all carrying a bit of it around with us now , like it or not !

Brian Oldford28/05/2019 16:12:46
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Posted by J Hancock on 28/05/2019 15:57:25:

We are all carrying a bit of it around with us now , like it or not !

So long as you don't glow in the dark we'll assume you're OK. smiley

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Barrie Lever28/05/2019 17:47:00
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Posted by Colin Whittaker on 28/05/2019 15:44:55:

Just released on HBO in the US and available to the rest of us by devious means if you know how.

The story of the Chernobyl Nuclear Reactor Explosion in episodes (now up to 3).

It's a real bastard of a heavy engineering disaster story. Be thankful you never had anything to do with it.

This TV series has moved me. Please, no jokes.

Colin

Colin

A completely horrible industrial accident and as far as I remember it was completely avoidable.

I will not watch the series as I have seen how horrifc the incident was for those who tried to contain it in the days after the explosion, same way as I never watch anything to do with the concentration camps, seeing it once is enough to remember it for the rest of your life.

Live and learn and don't make the same mistake twice.

Best Regards

Barrie

Tony Pratt 128/05/2019 17:51:01
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I'm not watching it either, I've got enough real life drama going on, my last ever apprentice thinks it's great, ah the innocence of youth!

Tony

Bill Phinn28/05/2019 17:52:08
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Chernobyl (the event) had a big impact on me.

At the time of the accident I was on a working holiday in Scotland. Just at the time when maximum fallout was wafting over the British Isles I was climbing Ben Lomond and other Scottish hills and soaking up the radioactive rain. Then I had a motorcycling accident on the way back from the Highlands and had to be hospitalised in Dumfries, during which time I had several powerful x-rays and scans, and drank plentifully of the local irradiated milk, which no-one really knew at the time was irradiated.

Later the same year I was hospitalised again for several weeks, this time in an ICU, and had more x-rays and scans during that stay than most people have in a lifetime.

As for the series, my brother is a graduate in Russian who spent a lot of time in the country in the 80's and beyond, and his testimony, added to what I know myself of the Soviet era, tells me the programme-makers have tried hard to create a period-look and done it fairly successfully.

Whether Chernobyl (the event) is responsible for the primary immune deficiency and other autoimmune illness I suffer from (and that nobody else in my family does) I don't know. But you have to wonder.

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Samsaranda28/05/2019 18:44:36
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Chernobyl is a brilliant series and I remember the event very well, a few days after the event this country was covered by a layer of cloud which was depositing a steady layer of contamination. The areas that seemed to be most affected were the hill regions of Wales, Lake District and Scotland, the ground became so contaminated that for years it was illegal to sell any sheep grazed there for human consumption because the meat was so contaminated. In the series great play is made on the fact that certain components of the contamination would take in the order of 20,000 years to decay to half its original intensity, beggars the question how much of the intensity of the fallout that fell here on the UK has diminished, are we being kept in the dark because there is nothing that could be done even if we knew ?

Dave W

Brian Oldford28/05/2019 18:58:13
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Posted by Samsaranda on 28/05/2019 18:44:36:

. . . . . . . kept in the dark because there is nothing that could be done even if we knew ?

Dave W

It's called the "Mushroom Technique" - kept in the dark and fed on bovine excrement.

Neil Wyatt28/05/2019 19:31:16
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I was living in Aberystwyth and remember buying a shoulder of Welsh lamb for next to nothing about a week after the accident.

A rudimentary knowledge of bioaccumulation made it pretty obvious that any danger was radiation accumulating in the vegetation then building up in livestock over extended periods, certainly months, to become dangerous.

duncan webster28/05/2019 23:32:48
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Whilst I wouldn't want to belittle the effect of radioactive contamination, at least radioactive elements do decay, however slowly, many chemical toxins are poisonous for ever. I'd rather ingest a gram of plutonium than a gram of arsenic, the plut will pass through your digestive tract and come out the other end, the arsenic will kill you. There is still plenty of it under Devon and Cornwall, and a lot on the surface in old mine tips

ronan walsh28/05/2019 23:51:10
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The BBC did an excellent dramatisation of the disaster, with the actor Ade Edmonson (from the young ones). Its available to watch on youtube. I was also watching a documentary with Guy Martin, he went out there to make a programme, and there still some people living relatively close to the reactor to this day. One old woman i recall. She said no one was moving her from her home, she had lived there all her life and she had no where else to go.

One thing that is wrong with the whole story is the men in the control room of the plant were scapegoated for the whole thing, which is very unfair. It was the design of the boron control rods that caused the explosion.

Cornish Jack29/05/2019 00:30:26
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I am confused! ... not an unusual conditionsad

I remember Chernobyl but NOT any radiation fears in the UK . Given the normal geostrophic wind patterns of generally West to East I wouldn't have expected any major pollution. The pollution scare which DID register was the Windscale/ Sellafield explosion which caused very specific problems with Welsh sheep for some considerable time afterwards., plus a general concern expressed by our European, particularly Scandinavian, neighbours.

Chernobyl was indeed horrible but one memory remains immovable - the military helicopter crews who VOLUNTARILY flew and hovered over the site dumping concrete to try to contain it, knowing it was a death sentence. How does anyone do that? The ultimate in heroism. R I P

rgds

Bill

Bill Phinn29/05/2019 00:34:20
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Posted by ronan walsh on 28/05/2019 23:51:10:

The BBC did an excellent dramatisation of the disaster, with the actor Ade Edmonson (from the young ones). Its available to watch on youtube. I was also watching a documentary with Guy Martin, he went out there to make a programme, and there still some people living relatively close to the reactor to this day.

I remember seeing those. They're both worth watching.

A poignant illustration of the immediate human cost of the accident and the deadly effects of attending a fire caused by a reactor core blowing is recent footage taken in the basement of Pripyat hospital showing the still highly radioactive clothing stripped from the firefighters who were taken there for emergency treatment.

Cabinet Enforcer29/05/2019 06:31:33
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Posted by Cornish Jack on 29/05/2019 00:30:26:

I am confused! ... not an unusual conditionsad

I remember Chernobyl but NOT any radiation fears in the UK . Given the normal geostrophic wind patterns of generally West to East I wouldn't have expected any major pollution.

Just shows how little attention is paid to your average hill farmer I suppose. Not that long since the last restrictions were lifted:

**LINK**

Lainchy29/05/2019 07:39:02
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Posted by ronan walsh on 28/05/2019 23:51:10:

The BBC did an excellent dramatisation of the disaster, with the actor Ade Edmonson (from the young ones). Its available to watch on youtube. I was also watching a documentary with Guy Martin, he went out there to make a programme, and there still some people living relatively close to the reactor to this day. One old woman i recall. She said no one was moving her from her home, she had lived there all her life and she had no where else to go.

One thing that is wrong with the whole story is the men in the control room of the plant were scapegoated for the whole thing, which is very unfair. It was the design of the boron control rods that caused the explosion.

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I remember this docu/drama also, and have it stored as an ISO image It's got to be one of the best TV programs ever made in my opinion of course. Shocking indeed. I was at school when this happened, and I remember it vividly

Edited By Ian Lainchbury on 29/05/2019 07:39:34

Wout Moerman 129/05/2019 08:13:43
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I'm a radiation protection expert myself and probably owe my job to this accident. I started my job in the early 90s and a lot of funding was available for education and training in the radiation sector, after many lean years. My compliments for how this issue is discussed in this thread. A few details:

plutonium is also very toxic, as are uranium isotopes. For some of the isotopes the chemical toxicity is more harmful than the radiotoxicity.

The long lived contamination of Europe is caused by cesium-137 which has a half life of 30 years. If the half life was much longer it would be less radioactive.

The main problem directly after the accident was deposit of iodine-131 which has a half life of 8 days. There was a significant increase of thyroid cancer in Russian children 10 years after the disaster.

J Hancock29/05/2019 09:10:57
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Who remembers the good old days, when ' every' shoe shop had an X-Ray machine, you stuck your foot in and your Mum could see right through to the basement ?

Samsaranda29/05/2019 09:16:17
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Bill, uncharacteristically the winds immediately after the Chernobyl accident flowed east to west over Europe causing a plume of radiation to be swept up over Scandinavia and then down across the UK, I think a lot of the contamination had settled across Europe and Scandinavia before reaching UK. It was just bad luck that the winds were in the wrong direction for us and we got a share. I seem to have a vague recollection that about that time there was concern about radioactive contamination of the overalls of personnel who had reason to work inside the air intakes of Lightning aircraft, due to the large volumes of air, from high altitude, passing through the intakes and the particles of contamination being deposited in the intakes.

Dave W

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