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Phil Whitley16/02/2019 21:55:32
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Tailstock and some parts look like an early Keighley lifts lathe, but not quite rignt

Chris Trice17/02/2019 04:43:00
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Rainbows, how much did the same seller want for his Boxford slowly rusting outside?

Hopper17/02/2019 06:27:45
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Looks like an interesting project. A hobby on its own getting that up and running to be sure. Someone at some time cared enough about it to paint it - even if they did paint over the oil sight glass and threading tables!

No idea what make it is but agreed it looks circa mid-20th Century with the square headstock enclosure, although the carriage and the stand legs looks a bit older school. So probably an updated version of an established machine?

Mick Henshall17/02/2019 09:04:42
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If you need some inspiration watch on YT chap called " Burton's Attic " refurbishing a Rockwell lathe, cracking job

Mick 🇬🇧

Dave Halford17/02/2019 22:55:09
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Posted by Mick Henshall on 17/02/2019 09:04:42:

If you need some inspiration watch on YT chap called " Burton's Attic " refurbishing a Rockwell lathe, cracking job

Mick 🇬🇧

Refurbishing is a touch strong, he's removing rust and repainting basically a good machine that he steam cleaned and left to rust for a bit.

90% of the original paint is still there so it's not had much use

larry phelan 118/02/2019 13:17:28
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Two points re the above,

! Carl, I never heard of that make !!!

2 Nicholas, Very few people can wear shorts successfully,and many who do should think twice about it.

There is a time and a place and more to the point an age. [to say nothing about a shape ]smileysmiley

Bazyle18/02/2019 14:02:05
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Thanks fo rthe warning, I might have to avoid episode one. I only watched episode 4 (sound muted and music supplied by classic fm) which I can report is child friendly but shows dubious practice on refitting the saddle. Potentially a rather good insight into the workings of this particular lathe for others that have one and also lathe construction in general.

Nick Clarke 318/02/2019 19:51:22
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Posted by Hollowpoint on 16/02/2019 20:06:53:

It looks in real bad shape but I've seen worse restored. We can fix anything us engineer types cant we?

It looks sorta 1930-1940 ish to me. I've seen something similar and IIRC it was American. Can't remember the name though. sad

I though American too - Hendey perhaps, but a quick look says no. Against the US origin is that gearboxes appear to have become far more common before the advent of geared heads, and also the 4 way tool post is not typical either - many American lathes using the lantern type.

Phil S19/02/2019 00:20:05
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Looks like a Wilfin. Google images for "William Findlay Newcastle" shows an auction picture of one in a tidy condition on a cupboard stand. The question is, are all the teeth in the gearbox still attached ?

Martin Hamilton 119/02/2019 10:58:01
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That certainly looks like the Wilfin lathe that is pictured over on lathes.co.uk.

Martin Hamilton 119/02/2019 11:27:31
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It seems likely that Wilfin lathes may actually have been manufactured by A. Fielding & Co of Keighley, as it looks like William Findlay were machine tool suppliers.

Chris Trice19/02/2019 12:00:11
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I read that on lathes.co.uk too.

Phil Whitley19/02/2019 20:36:02
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Yes! Wilfin, but if you look at the tailstock on the keighley lifts lathe, it is virtually identical. I would hazard a guess to say that the tailstocks for both were made at Fieldings in Keighley, where it is suspected that the Wilfin was made. There were a few lathe makers in Keighley "I' them days"!

Rainbows20/02/2019 17:19:40
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I squinted at the tailstock and there are some differences. The keighley lacks the sort of sweep underneath the handle. Though still quite similar.

Also wow this forum put together must recognise on sight every lathe to exist. Thanks y'all

Nick Clarke 320/02/2019 17:37:44
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What I don't understand is why someone painted over most of the speed change label and totally over the oil level sight glass?? Strange!!

Phil Whitley20/02/2019 20:47:07
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Posted by Nick Clarke 3 on 20/02/2019 17:37:44:

What I don't understand is why someone painted over most of the speed change label and totally over the oil level sight glass?? Strange!!

Worked at a farm many years ago, installing some electrical equipment, and in the very clean and smart workshop was a 1932(?) triumph motorcycle, Of course I tried to buy it, but the old boy wouldn't sell because he had it from new, and "did all his courtin on it". When asked who had painted it with blue dulux, he reluctantly admitted that he let his grandkids do it, after they were bored one holiday time at Grandads farm!! Shit happens.

Bazyle20/02/2019 22:59:10
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Happens when children don't know and people don't care. I was looking at some Landrovers being sold by the MOD. All newly repainted and looking underneath newly undersealed - including the great gobbets of mud all sealed in with the black gloop.

Rainbows21/02/2019 19:21:52
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Apparently the seller took this off the lathe and since lost it. It would have in hindsight helped a lot with identification huh.

Michael Gilligan21/02/2019 19:33:16
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**LINK**

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=GB&NR=414496A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19340809&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

MichaelG.

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The origin of the belt drive arragement that we know and love ?

http://www.lathes.co.uk/wilfin/

 

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 21/02/2019 19:37:50

Roger Williams 221/02/2019 21:04:39
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Carl Wilson said it was utter shite, I dont think its that good.

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