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Meunier31/01/2019 19:19:19
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Posted by Fowlers Fury on 30/01/2019 22:26:15:

snip...
I can't remember whether Win 7 allowes the Ctrl and + to zoom in on a screen but if it does, try it on that 'snip' of mine above ~ it should show it's quite readable at that 1920 x 1080 resolution....snip

Win 7 here FF, hold down Control and + or use scroll wheel on mouse works to increase/decrease font.
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Paul Lousick06/02/2019 08:04:32
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Does anyonehave a problem viewing the digital copies of Model Engineer.

It appears that the viewer has been replaced.

With the magazine image set at 100% (default) it only fills 3/4 of my screen. I can manually enlarge it to fill my screen but it reverts back to 100% every time I turn a page. Very annoying

The older version had an option to print a page. How do you save a page now?

Paul.

Edited By JasonB on 06/02/2019 08:15:19

Paul Lousick06/02/2019 08:58:54
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Thanks Jason,

I did a quick search but did not find these previous posts. Looks like I am not the only one with problems. Hopefully they will be resolves soon,

Paul

Chris Gill06/02/2019 18:33:55
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Sorry to say, I also find this new viewer unusable. As with others, the whole point of my digital subscription was to be able to use the archive. I often find I have to print to PDF so that I can enlarge some of the diagrams. I hope someone has a serious re-think.

Chris

Neil Wyatt06/02/2019 18:58:07
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I understand printing is being progressed.

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Gray10/02/2019 09:09:53
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There's a lot more than print that needs working on.

Why oh why has this been thrust upon us without any thought for functionality or usability.

For instance, in the old viewer, once you had zoomed in to a readable size, you could turn pages and continue reading, the new viewer instantly returns to its default zoom level (100%) each time you turn a page, so you then have to zoom in again.

Another thing, clicking the full screen view does not do exactly that, it turns off browser toolbars etc but the magazine image remains the same size AND, if you then try to use zoom and move around the page, you are only viewing a window on the page, so the rest of the page disappears under the grey background.

So typical of a web R&D dept doing very little R and absolutely no D!

These changes should not be released until they have been fully developed and tested 'in house' to ensure all functionality of what is being replaced is fully replicated (or improved) in the replacement.

Why don't they just do what most of the other magazines I read online do and publish these as a PDF. You still have to be a subscriber to access them so what's the problem?

Gray

Fowlers Fury10/02/2019 11:35:34
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"Why don't they just do what most of the other magazines I read online do and publish these as a PDF. You still have to be a subscriber to access them so what's the problem?"

Possibly because it is considered too easy to redistribute pdf versions e.g.within M.E.Socs.?
Why - I assumed - it was made so much effort (time consuming) to produce a personal reference pdf copy of an issue.

But publishing staff, contributors etc are undeniably entitled to remuneration for all their work.
Publishing and authoring are not very rewarding activities these days as copyright laws are rarely enforced. Numerous websites offer illicit copies of magazines and books within a short time of their publication, denying income to those producing them ~ as well as HMRC - which amongst other taxes, get VAT from e-books etc.

Sorry ~ a digression from the original thread...........

Graham Stoppani10/02/2019 11:54:39
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Can someone say what viewer is currently operating for the archived magazines? I am seeing Adobe Flashplayer for either MS Explorer running on Windows 10 or Firefox running on Windows 7.

regards

Graham

JasonB10/02/2019 12:26:18
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The latest two issues of ME have a new non Flash viewer and I expect the next and subsequent MEWs to use the same new viewer

Neil Wyatt10/02/2019 17:46:04
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Posted by Fowlers Fury on 10/02/2019 11:35:34:

"Why don't they just do what most of the other magazines I read online do and publish these as a PDF. You still have to be a subscriber to access them so what's the problem?"

Possibly because it is considered too easy to redistribute pdf versions e.g.within M.E.Socs.?

Because it is too easy to make rip-off pdf versions available on line.

Last year on our behalf the Publishers' Association issued over 4,000 take-down notices for pirate copies of ME and MEW.

Without that help, our digital sales would be hurt pretty hard.

Also, as many of our readers are members of societies, I wonder how many subscriptions we would lose through clubs distributing PDF copies compared to having a paper copy in the clubhouse?

Without sales income, there would be no magazine...

Neil

Neil Wyatt10/02/2019 18:37:16
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Posted by Gray on 10/02/2019 09:09:53:

So typical of a web R&D dept doing very little R and absolutely no D!

Gray,

This reader has been around for donkey's years, it's an off the shelf product, not an in-house one.

Neil

JES15/02/2019 16:27:20
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I can no longer print from pocketmags so I am unable to take pages to the workshop, I am beginning to wonder if it is worth the subscription

jes

Steambuff15/02/2019 18:40:26
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I can't print in PocketMags or through the Archive on this site either. (IE and Firefox)

Thats now 1 digital issue of MEW and 2 digital issues of ME that are not fit for purpose!

I'm going to cancel my subscriptions and demand a refund .....

MTM should have reverted back to the old viewer/format as soon as the issue was raised and not just blindly go on publishing issues that are not fit for purpose.

Dave

Michael Gilligan15/02/2019 19:15:02
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If that's how digital publishing is designed to work

Please don't ever stop publishing a print version !!

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Frances IoM15/02/2019 19:25:15
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Michael G - I guess you will be well aware of www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html - however several specialised print journals in both computing and electronics have either disappeared or become digital only. The great advantages of digital come with many significant disadvantages one of which is that someone else can be given full control over what and when you can read
Michael Gilligan15/02/2019 19:51:35
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Exactly, Frances

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Gray15/02/2019 20:26:33
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 10/02/2019 18:37:16:
Posted by Gray on 10/02/2019 09:09:53:

So typical of a web R&D dept doing very little R and absolutely no D!

Gray,

This reader has been around for donkey's years, it's an off the shelf product, not an in-house one.

Neil

The implementation/integration of a replacement feature still needs to be carefully tested to ensure it is fit for purpose, that's the R&D to which I refer.

It so obviously needs its configuration 'fine tuning' something which should have been done long before it was 'inflicted' on an unsuspecting readership.

I echo the sentiments of others, put it back as it was or find a reader that is suitable for the task. I read many other publications online and none are as bad as this one.

I'm so glad I didn't give up on the print part of my subscription. Even the pocketmags reader is better than this and that frequently crashes!

Gray

JES16/02/2019 09:04:15
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This is a copy of an email received from pocket mags that puts the problem back in the publishers court

jes

Hi John,

Thank you for your email!

Unfortunately, digital issues are created by the publishers to be used solely for digital purposes. Because of this the digital issues are not compatible to be printed off. Alternatively, you can also contact the publishers directly as they may be able to assist you further.

If you are looking for the print subscription of a title, you can go to our sister site magazine.co.uk who facilitate print subscriptions, or go directly to the publishers.

Warm Regards,

Suzanne

Pocketmags Customer Service

Help@pocketmags.com

On Fri, 15 Feb at 3:24 PM , jesofmi <jesofmi@aol.com> wrote:

Up till now I have been able to print the odd page from Model Engineer to take into the workshop. This facility seems to have now disappeared is this a problem at pocket mags or with the html5 reader

Regards

John Stannard

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

JasonB16/02/2019 09:11:03
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JES you need to be aware that the Pocketmags VIEWER has never had the option to print a single page so there is no problem at their end.

MTM up until about a month ago used a flash based viewer with the option to print a page that is accessed via this site. This has now been changed to a non Flash player one which at present does not have the print option.

Neil has said that getting the print option added is being worked on. There are various settings on the new viewer, hopefully it just needs a back room boffin to tick the print box. 

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It's a Flowpaper product and their mag viewer can have the print Icon added to the bar, if you click the image on this page it takes you to a demo mag viewer and the print icon is at the left of the bar.

Edited By JasonB on 16/02/2019 09:21:12

Edited By JasonB on 16/02/2019 09:27:43

JES16/02/2019 09:44:45
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I have tried the link you suggested, the Print function went through OK bur the results were just blank pages except for a header and the date and time at the bottom of the sheet.

I hope it is not me creating the problem, I am using Firefox.

If the pocketmags app never had the facility to print a single page how come I have been doing it for the last few years?

I hope the problem will be resolved soon, and am encouraged to here that Neil is on the problem

jes

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