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duncan webster25/12/2018 20:57:40
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Today of all days the (kitchen) oven packed up. Xmas dinner will now be tomorrow, daughter is doing the turkey and sausage meat, daughter-in-law to be is doing the roasties, let's hope it all arrives at the right time.

Why do ovens have to be so complicated, all I want is on/off and temperature control. Even if I've identified the correct part from the fault code a new bit is £120, but when I switch it off and back on I get a different fault code. Wait for the sales and buy a new one I think.

not done it yet25/12/2018 21:15:45
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Sorry to hear that. Hope you at least got something to eat that was Christmassy.

Mike Poole25/12/2018 21:21:13
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Been there, luckily we had recently bought a large combination microwave oven and as cooking was only 40mins from completion it got the job done, just. this years little surprise was the kitchen light gave up so had to nip down to Toolstation yesterday and buy and fit new fitting ready for today.


modeng200025/12/2018 21:22:17
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We replaced ours just in case it decided to not cook our christmas dinner. As you say Duncan, too complicated for such a simple process.

John Rudd25/12/2018 21:28:28
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Duncan I share your disappointment.....moreso as its Christmas lunch you lost out on....

We were cooking lunch one Sunday when the local electric authority cut the supply to effect a repair....we were aware of their activities but they told us lunch wouldnt be affected....suffice to say we had a part cooked roast...!! Sandwiches all round...

Hope you get sorted without too much fuss.

Bazyle25/12/2018 22:19:56
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I get invited with some others to Christmas at one person's house and two years ago her oven packed up on xmas eve. So the various parts of the meal were cooked at 3 other houses in the village and converged at one. A bonus of inviting nearby friends to dine with you.

This year as her MIL was housebound we all went 5 miles to that house which was a nice change of scene.
As a subject drift I was given a lift by a couple whose dog has an interesting behaviour. He absolutely loves being in the car, definitely not walks, such that he knows their routine and waits by the door on known driving days. Once in the car he hates to leave it except to go into his own home. Then he will bark continually when the car is moving, and we all track the owners movements round the village by the barking. However if someone sits in the rear driver side seat he plonks himself on top of them and is completely silent. He absolutely ignores anyone being in the left rear seat, it only works for the driver's side. The owners can't understand why but he is a rescue dog so somehow must have picked it up from his previous elderly single owner.

AJW25/12/2018 22:21:58
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My commiserations regarding your resheduled Christmas dinner, what did you have instead?
We had pate on toast!
A saucepan boiled over with water getting where it shouldn't causing the ELCB to trip, unfortunately I wasn't able to put power back on to the cooker till late afternoon when things had dried out.
Looking forward to tomorrow's lunch!

Bob Rodgerson25/12/2018 23:24:15
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The day before Christmas Eve the central heating and hot water boiler stopped working just before the family were due to arrive for Christmas. I am covered by a homecare contract but it was late in the day and I couldn't find anybody to speak to, however, on line I was offered a repair date of the 27th Dec.

Unfortunately I misread the appointment message and had somehow assumed that it was for the morning of the 24th. I didn't realise this until the next morning when I checked my phone messages. Clearly this was not good enough so I decided to call the British Gas emergency help line to see if I could get an emergency repair appointment. I was told that before any assistance could be offered I would have to check at the meter to see what type it was and to switch off the supply. I was also told that before any work could be done somebody from Cadent (British Gas Utilities Contractor) would have to come and check that we were getting gas to the meter. I must admit I couldn't see the point, after all why wouldn't there be gas at the meter.

The situation was a bit like breaking down in a car knowing it is beyond roadside repair but still having to wait for an RAC man to tell you that it can't be repaired at the road and having to wait even longer for the recovery vehicle to arrive.

Still not happy I tried yet another number and finally managed to get to speak to somebody and was given a repair date of the 25th Dec which was acceptable.

Meantime a person from Cadent turned up and checked the meter. I was absolutely gobsmacked when he attached a manometer to a tapping point on the meter and got no reading. He thought that perhaps the little valve was blocked so he poked through with a piece of wire which made no difference. Next he disconnected the supply pipe from the meter, sure enough, not even a whiff of gas. His verdict was that he thought that there could be water in the line and he would call out a crew who would get the water out. Within an hour there were a couple of vans on site with a vacuum pump unit. This was coupled up to the supply to the meter and switched on. I was amazed at how much water was sucked out of the gas main. I reckon there was at least 40 gallons of water in there because it took two men to drag the unit onto the driveway and four to get it off. You could see the water , which was clear, through the transparent tube on the vacuum unit and it ran clear for a long time before you could see the odd bubbles in the line.

Anyway once the line was cleared gas supply resumed and the meter was re-connected and checked out before switching on the central heating.

I was really pleased that the problem hadn't been due to my central heating boiler failing and I was impressed with the speed at which Cadent carried out the work to get us back up and running again. It could have been a bit of a problem with all of the family at home for Christmas. I cancelled the Christmas day and 27th Dec appointments.

The thing that gets me is where the heck did all that water come from.

Ady125/12/2018 23:37:52
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Got a gas cooker, even works in powercuts

We used to all gather in the nearest gas cooker owning house when Arthur Scargill ran Britain in the 1970s

Aye, them were days

blowlamp26/12/2018 00:32:41
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Crazy wasn't it? Imagine - a union leader working to protect the livelihood of his members. surprise

clogs26/12/2018 07:20:16
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my oven fan went down during Chrissy dinner cooking mode......had to keep turning the Turkey.......hahaha.....

£17 for a replacement.......

the above post's was the reason for buying a simple electric oven........would love gas but they don't make a double oven for bottle gas, well at a price I can town gas here.........

all the best for the New Year 1 and all..........

Kiwi Bloke26/12/2018 09:27:41
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A friend in Oxfordshire told me the following, which happened to an unpopular 'know-it-all' builder, who had moved into the area, into a large, expensive pile in the country, which he was 'improving'. I think it was just before Christmas.

Said builder had installed one of those glass-fibre septic tanks that look like a monster onion. He knew better than to follow instructions, so didn't bother with the heavy concrete collar around the top of the unit, having buried the 'onion'. The outflow field turned out to be unwisely sited, in a low part of his land. It rained. And rained. The ground got soggy. The septic tank stopped draining, and overflowed. (OK, you know why, but he didn't).

Reasoning that the best thing to do with an overflowing tank is to empty it, that is what he did. The water table being unusually high, the back-fill around the tank being not properly compacted, and lacking the mass of the concrete collar that should have been there, the now empty tank did what physics said it must, and what the displaced volume of water compelled it to, and promptly popped right out of the ground. My, how the locals larfed.

Ian S C26/12/2018 09:59:33
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Ah, for Christmas dinner you need the Kiwi tradition of the BBQ, then your only worry will be "did I get the gas cylinder filled", or like ours yesterday, the drizzle of rain and a leaking O-ring, and a replacement hose and regulator.

Ian S C

Samsaranda26/12/2018 10:18:21
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Duncan, we had a similar panic last Xmas, on Christmas Eve morning, wife got up to start the Xmas cooking but was greeted by a strong smell of gas coming from the vicinity of the gas hob. Panic ensued, where were we going to get a gas technician on Xmas Eve. Phoned number three daughter who lives in the same village as us and she said don’t panic her next door but one neighbour was a gas technician and she would see if he was at home. As it happened he had finished work for Xmas, or so he thought, and once situation was explained he arrived complete with tools. Leak was traced to loose union on supply pipe under the hob which had been finger tight since new kitchen install four years previously, so much for Gas Safe certified installers. Problem solved in literally minutes and all the guy would take was £25, and he made a thorough check that there were no further leaks.

Dave W

duncan webster26/12/2018 11:43:46
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It wasn't as bad as AJW, at least the gas hob still worked so we could have a cooked meal, now project managing the out-sourced cooking of the delayed turkey etc. Constant phone calls, as if I know how to cook a roast dinner. My simple rule 'if it's meat fry it, if not boil it'. Works most of the time

the artfull-codger26/12/2018 12:17:33
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Daughter and family were over from oz a few years back and a couple of days before Christmas she phoned me at work to say water was running out of the oven all over the kitchen floor (solid fuel range cooker) So no heating water cooking, place was like a morgue!! I ended up disconnecting the circs and the chimney and putting it on its side to weld a patch on the boiler fortunately it was ok so back together again and dinner was cooked in time,we bought a new Rayburn in the following summer so the weld lasted a few months. the water was crystal clear and had been in for over thirty years so I re used in and topped it up with more fernox and when I fitted the Rayburn i used the same water again topping up with more fernox so its nearly forty years old

speelwerk26/12/2018 12:39:15
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When the oven fails I still have a industrial one as back-up, go's to 900C, probably high enough for the turkey. Niko.

Mike Poole26/12/2018 13:10:34
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I wonder how long an earth pit oven would take to do a turkey?


Ron Laden26/12/2018 13:21:53
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We had Christmas lunch at our grand daughters and she had cooked a turkey crown in the slow cooker with herbs and white wine, it was excellent. Would never have thought of turkey in a slow cooker but it works.

Nicholas Wheeler 126/12/2018 14:17:37
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Posted by Mike Poole on 26/12/2018 13:10:34:

I wonder how long an earth pit oven would take to do a turkey?


You could deep fry it: LINK

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