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Neil Wyatt15/12/2018 14:34:05
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The year of Engineering is drawing to a close and sent me it's Christmas wishes.

Howard Lewis15/12/2018 14:39:46
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Sadly, Engineers are abysmally poor at publicising the benefits that Engineers have brought, and continue to bring, to Society.

I have voiced this complaint to members, and Section Leaders of the I Mech E, but no apparent effect.

We may be good Engineers, but useless at Marketing or self promotion.

Probably too busy inventing things or problem solving.

A Merry Christmas to all our readers!

Howard

Mick Charity15/12/2018 15:28:41
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Posted by Howard Lewis on 15/12/2018 14:39:46:

Sadly, Engineers are abysmally poor at publicising the benefits that Engineers have brought, and continue to bring, to Society.

A Merry Christmas to all our readers!

Howard

Name one, in your own time please.

mick15/12/2018 16:34:00
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Fowlers Fury15/12/2018 17:00:27
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Brilliant swarf tree !! teeth 2

Must be worth a £25 voucher from here:- **LINK**

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Neil Wyatt15/12/2018 17:27:31
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Posted by mick on 15/12/2018 16:34:00:

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Brilliant, I could have used that as a cover!

May I use it for my Christmas Tweet?

Neil

colin hawes15/12/2018 17:34:51
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Qualified engineers are a highly intelligent but too reserved species which is why they are not rated as highly as doctors or lawyers by society. Everybody uses engineered equipment The misuse of the title "Engineer" is another reason for lack of appreciation by the average person. We need to greatly promote knowledge of the skills and mathematical abilities of people entitled to call themselves "engineer". Colin

mick15/12/2018 17:43:33
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Hi. Neil. Can't claim it as my own, lifted it from the Machinist Museum face book page.

Jeff Dayman15/12/2018 19:03:25
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Posted by Mick Charity on 15/12/2018 15:28:41:

Name one, in your own time please.

How about the engineers who pioneered the mechanical generation of electricity, and pioneered the computer, so you could read these forum pages?

Everything you used today to cook with, sit on, travel in, the heating appliances in your home, anything you read, are the direct products of the work of engineers and artisans.

(more than one, sorry)

Phil Steventon15/12/2018 19:51:14
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Posted by colin hawes on 15/12/2018 17:34:51:

The misuse of the title "Engineer" is another reason for lack of appreciation by the average person.

I recently ordered an appliance from a well known on-line retailer ??.com. The sales person tried to sell the extended warranty by saying an engineer would carry out any repair. Needless to say she was politely told to look up the definition of engineer and not to call technicians engineers.

duncan webster16/12/2018 00:15:44
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It is reckoned that the provision of clean water and the safe disposal of sewage has done more to extend the average human life span than all the medical advances put together. Done of course by mechanical and civil engineers, but do we get any thanks?

Try telling you car insurance company you are a Chartered Engineer, they've never heard of us.

Bill Pudney16/12/2018 04:53:02
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I always wanted to be an Engineer. My boyhood heroes were Engineers like IKB, W. O. Bentley, R.J. Mitchell. It really does irritate me when Technicians are described as "Engineers".

Merry Christmas everybody!!

cheers

Bill

Mick Charity16/12/2018 07:24:15
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I consider sanitation to be the greatest invention of all time. The origins of the word & the principles of 'hygiene' can be traced back to ancient Greece to the time of 'Hippocrates' 460-370bc. The word 'hygiene' has developed from the ancient Greek word 'Hygeia' meaning the 'art of health'.

Hippocrates was a physician.

I don't think any historian can lay claim to discovering exactly who invented sanitation, but I don't for one minute believe that it was an engineer.

Let's not confuse as 'engineers' the mass hordes of mathematicians, the scientists of chemistry, physics & biology, the scholars of the arts & of Latin, & all of those people whose genius led them to create, to invent, to bring to society something truly ground breaking, something that made the world change.

If the title of 'engineer' is a description of 'what I do' rather than 'what I am' then I am also an engineer, as is that washing machine repair man, as is a bricklayer, a joiner & the electrician.

So, what have 'engineers' ever done for us?

I can think of very few . . . .

Edited By Mick Charity on 16/12/2018 07:25:22

Neil Wyatt16/12/2018 10:05:11
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Posted by Mick Charity on 16/12/2018 07:24:15:

I consider sanitation to be the greatest invention of all time. The origins of the word & the principles of 'hygiene' can be traced back to ancient Greece to the time of 'Hippocrates' 460-370bc. The word 'hygiene' has developed from the ancient Greek word 'Hygeia' meaning the 'art of health'.

Hippocrates was a physician.

I don't think any historian can lay claim to discovering exactly who invented sanitation, but I don't for one minute believe that it was an engineer.

So, what have 'engineers' ever done for us?

I can think of very few . . . .

Edited By Mick Charity on 16/12/2018 07:25:22

So you wouldn't give Joseph Bazagette any appreciation? He may not have invented sanitation, but he improved the quality of life for millions.

How about Phillipe de Girard?

Neil

Danny M2Z16/12/2018 10:45:10
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Even a model engineer would appreciate this song from down-under, It's a Christmas favourite where I live **LINK**

* Danny M *

Mick Charity16/12/2018 10:53:02
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 16/12/2018 10:05:11:
Posted by Mick Charity on 16/12/2018 07:24:15:

So you wouldn't give Joseph Bazagette any appreciation? He may not have invented sanitation, but he improved the quality of life for millions.

How about Phillipe de Girard?

Neil

For me, an inventor has to have conceived the idea, to pluck from almost nowhere an idea that they believe can & will, simply aid or totally transform society. There is this word called 'discovery' which I feel needs to be included.

An engineer who completes a task, however successfully & with whatever flair, does not IMO qualify as an inventor. Joseph Bazalgette didn't storm into Pariament & demand that they let him build a sewerage system to prevent another great stink.

Phillipe de Girard would qualify (IMO), not necessarily because he used his engineering talent to successfully solve a problem, the task set by Napoleon to devise an efficient system of spinning flax, but more so for his (alleged) invention of the tin can to store food.

History is full of great minds who made great discoveries, very few of them were 'engineers'.

XD 35116/12/2018 10:56:00
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Joseph Bazagette according to wikipedia was recommended for the job by another brilliant engineer - Brunel .

Where do we really draw the line on the term " Engineer " ? Do we go back to the time of Archimedes, Da Vinci or the Egyptians that buit the pyramids , maybe the Aztecs ? What about the Romans ? If memory serves me correctly they set up the first sewer system In England .

The core of all Engineering is math , you cannot have one without the other .

The question is not "What have Engineers ever done for us " but rather what would life be like without them !

Geoff Theasby16/12/2018 11:40:00
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My wife refers to me as her Household Technical Consultant. As a member of IET, IEEE and ETA, I feel qualified to mend anything with materials at hand. Glue, duct tape and WD-40... Yesterday I attached magnetic catches to the kitchen door, and, at her request, stood near the computer to make it work properly. It's true! Five times now, when it wouldn't load her e-mails, I looked over her shoulder as she tried again, and Hosannah! It worked! Even if it's a loose floorboard resting on a cable, it does work. then also, lightbulb replacement service, painter, car dashboard function diviner, setter-up of electrical devices, tv remote operator, (out of six) battery stockist, furniture repairer....

XD 35116/12/2018 12:28:23
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I usually threaten my pc with a 5 lb hammer - works for me !

Bazyle16/12/2018 12:31:46
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As I am listening to a Bach violin concerto I consider those who developed the piano, violin, organ etc to their current state to be great engineers......

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