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duncan webster29/09/2018 18:20:32
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I've got an ad in classifieds, and have received an e-mail from a Nicole Curtis. It reads

Hello
Good Day to you.Am interested in your advert posted and i will like to know the present condition of it and the last price with pics..Mind you,i will be responsible for the pick-up of it at your locations okay.Hope to read from you soon.

Regards....
Curtis

I think this is a scam, as the grammar is a bit odd, and Ms Curtis would not usually sign with just a surname. Anyone else had dealings with this person

Andrew Johnston29/09/2018 18:27:04
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It reads exactly as the classic scam where they overpay and then collect the goods. You pay a refund for the overpayment. But the original bank transfer can take a month or more to become irrevocable. Surprise, surprise the money is recovered from your account, leaving you out of pocket and minus the goods.

Andrew

Neil Wyatt29/09/2018 18:34:15
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I wouldn't touch that with a bargepole.

Could you PM me with details of which account contacted you ASAP?

Last time this happened we had a lot of people approached.

This is why we have the minimum number of posts rule.

Thanks

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 29/09/2018 18:35:55

Emgee29/09/2018 18:36:29
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Sounds 100% scam to me but must be a member here to gain access to your email address, perhaps a couple of questions is not enough.

Emgee

Robbo29/09/2018 18:59:30
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Duncan

Have heard that name before as a scammer on the Homeworkshop site. Ignore it.

John Rudd29/09/2018 20:01:13
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Of great importance, this needs reporting to the authorities...Might sound strong.

The London Met have a Fraud squad dealing with this stuff...

Just think, you grafted for your hard earned...but to give it away to some scammer?

Edited By John Rudd on 29/09/2018 20:01:47

Ian McVickers29/09/2018 20:06:17
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The Nicole Curtis name has been around a few sales sites. Ignore it.

Alan Waddington 229/09/2018 22:04:29
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Do people actually still fall for these enquiries ?.......scammers need to up their game

Neil Wyatt29/09/2018 23:13:21
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Not signed up on here; apparently it's also advertised on another site.

This is why we require people to make a few posts before they can access the classifieds. Most scammers can't be bothered or don't want to draw attention to themselves.

Always the possibility someone will post a few sensible messages in an attempt to get around the system, so do take care.

I do get fed up with people who have no interest in joining in our discussions and moan about having to make a tiny effort to see the classifieds. Free classified ads are meant as a benefit to forum users.

Another website I use requires people to make 50 postings so their classifieds really are for regular forum users.

Neil

larry phelan 130/09/2018 09:15:43
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Simple way to deal with this guy,tell him you will accept cash money,the kind you can spend in the pub,you do not give refunds,and you want cash on collection and to have-a-nice-day !

I dont think you,ll hear any more from Curtis !

Andrew Johnston30/09/2018 09:29:31
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 29/09/2018 23:13:21:

I do get fed up with people who have no interest in joining in our discussions and moan about having to make a tiny effort to see the classifieds. Free classified ads are meant as a benefit to forum users.

Me too; I think the minimum number of posts should be increased to, say, 5 or 10.

Andrew

Edited By Andrew Johnston on 30/09/2018 09:29:46

Simon Williams 330/09/2018 09:58:10
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I'm with Andrew, I'm in favour of increasing the number of posts to qualify for member benefits. And I like Neil's policy of being vague about what this minimum number is.

However, if I've understood Neil's comments correctly Nicole Curtis has managed to post a reply to a classified ad' without being qualified to do so. So that begs the question of how he/she/it (we don't know!) has managed to bypass this safe guard. No point in increasing the shield if there is a way round it.

It never fails to astonish me the time and effort some will put into being dishonest, when for less effort they could apply their talents to making the world a better place.

Simon

Robbo30/09/2018 10:05:49
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Posted by Simon Williams 3 on 30/09/2018 09:58:10:

However, if I've understood Neil's comments correctly Nicole Curtis has managed to post a reply to a classified ad' without being qualified to do so. So that begs the question of how he/she/it (we don't know!) has managed to bypass this safe guard. No point in increasing the shield if there is a way round it.

Simon

Duncan also advertised his "Ajax" loco on Homeworkshop, where 'Nicole Curtis' has appeared previously.

Neil Wyatt30/09/2018 11:03:49
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Posted by Simon Williams 3 on 30/09/2018 09:58:10:

However, if I've understood Neil's comments correctly Nicole Curtis has managed to post a reply to a classified ad' without being qualified to do so. So that begs the question of how he/she/it (we don't know!) has managed to bypass this safe guard. No point in increasing the shield if there is a way round it.

Most likely because it was also advertised elsewhere, but there's an obvious way around it that I won't share which is almost certainly far too much faff for a scammer to be bothered, hopefully they will move on looking for easier targets.

The problem is that it's hard to advertise successfully without sharing your contact details.

All we can do is make the process of contacting people convoluted enough to deter mass scamming, but it will always be down to the seller to protect themselves. Caveat vendor!

Neil

mechman4830/09/2018 11:10:57
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Definitely a scam. There's a preponderance of scams doing the round lately, I've had 3 this past week. I delete any e mails that are from people / companies that I don't know or have not contacted myself.

George.

Dusty30/09/2018 11:41:50
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If you have a minimum number of posts and a minimum length of time as a registered member say 6/9 months, that will deter all, but the most persistent scammers.

Neil Wyatt30/09/2018 11:52:59
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There needs to be a degree of proportionaility,as it benefits sellers to have plenty of buyers, and some worthy members have joined because the classifieds attracted them to the site.

Don't forget anyone can walk into a newsagent and flick through the ads in the magazines.

Neil

Adam Stevenson30/09/2018 11:54:31
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Unfortunately the homeworkshop site displays contact details so that people can get in touch with the seller/buyer directly to avoid data processing issues. All email address are converted to an image but members get a clickable link. I may be changing this in the future but still want to make it simple for people to use. Requiring someone to gain some post count means that those people that can't easily communicate with others are left out. Also we do get alot of people selling because their partner/dad/uncle died leaving a vast collection of goodies that they want to not scrap but sell back are missed.
I hate scammers because running a site like homeworkshop takes resources and they are wasting those resources and my time sorting out their stupid attempts to get hold of the data when the mk 1 eyeball is all you need.

They is also a new posting type to allow you to name and shame scammers on the site but please put the scammers details not your own and a copy of the email they sent you.

Howard Lewis30/09/2018 12:20:37
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The fact that the reply is signed "Curtis" suggests that the responder is oriental., where the first name is actually the surname, unlike caucasians where it idsthe given name.

Duncan you need a bargepole of infinite length and minimal weight!

Howard

Hopper30/09/2018 12:30:35
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"Cash on collection" should get rid of Nicole or Curtis or whatever his name is.

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