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Neil Wyatt19/09/2018 16:03:13
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a free trial of some affordable, high-quality parametric 3D CAD software.

Wouldn't it be even better to have a really long free trial of some affordable, high-quality parametric 3D CAD software.

Wouldn't it be even better to have a really long free trial of some affordable, high-quality parametric 3D CAD software backed up by a custom series of tutorials written by a professional trainer in your favourite magazine?

What, you want downloadable examples and support files as well...?

Watch this space

Neil

Journeyman19/09/2018 16:24:52
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Alibre Atom3D perchance? If so I look forward to the tutorials, they might help me with Alibre that I have had for years and still a tyro!

John

Michael Gilligan19/09/2018 16:46:07
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2018 16:03:13:

... What, you want ...

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Mac OS X compatibility please

MichaelG.

jimmy b19/09/2018 17:41:39
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That's got my attention!

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Philip Rowe19/09/2018 18:25:38
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Now this sounds really interesting, how long do we have to wait?

Phil

V8Eng19/09/2018 20:37:54
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As somebody who has started trying to learn CAD this offer sounds very interesting, any chance of MAC OS please?

Edited By V8Eng on 19/09/2018 20:50:59

Neil Wyatt19/09/2018 21:48:02
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I'm afraid it will be PC only, not many good CAD packages out there for Mac.

No more clues for a while

Neil

V8Eng19/09/2018 22:16:59
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Well Fusion 360 runs on Mac OS so obviously not that.

Have to use my Windows 8.1 PC then, thanks in advance.🙂

Edited By V8Eng on 19/09/2018 22:27:52

A G B19/09/2018 22:56:34
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This sound really good hope it starts at the very basic for those of us only just starting to go to CAD

JohnF19/09/2018 23:00:14
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As V8Eng says I to have tried but struggled to make any headway with Turbocad so lets hope it is for absolute dummy's and tutorials start at very first principals thus assuming the pupil knows NOTHING !

Not even how to draw a straight line !

Shame about the Mac though but can dust off the old Windows 7 PC

Bandersnatch20/09/2018 01:44:30
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2018 21:48:02:

No more clues for a while


How about just one more? Will this be for subscribers only or will you still get it if you buy the magazine from the bookstore (in another country at that).

Mark Rand20/09/2018 02:37:32
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Wahay, back to the days when magazines had floppy disks/CDs glued to the covers. laugh

Will there be a CAM package, with guidance on writing POSTs in the future?

I'm ashamed to say that I use Visio for all of my CAD work, since being introduced to it in 1996. I've tried a couple of 'proper' CAD packages, but haven't been clever enough to make them do what I wanted. Maybe some educational articles will help me break out of 2D!

Looking forward to it!

Edited By Mark Rand on 20/09/2018 02:43:57

Russell Eberhardt20/09/2018 08:08:27
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2018 21:48:02:

I'm afraid it will be PC only,

Good, so that will include Linux then??

Russell

Neil Wyatt20/09/2018 09:18:57
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Posted by Bandersnatch on 20/09/2018 01:44:30:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2018 21:48:02:

No more clues for a while


How about just one more? Will this be for subscribers only or will you still get it if you buy the magazine from the bookstore (in another country at that).

This will be for any reader, worldwide. A full trial long enough to make decent use of it and decide whether it suits you, and the price if you decide to carry on is sensible (and an outright purchase, no annual licensing or forced upgrades).

It does, like any 3D CAD program, require some getting used to. The tutorial will start right at the beginning.

Neil

Neil Wyatt20/09/2018 09:19:30
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Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 20/09/2018 08:08:27:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2018 21:48:02:

I'm afraid it will be PC only,

Good, so that will include Linux then??

Russell

I'm afraid not.

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 20/09/2018 09:49:22

Bazyle20/09/2018 09:29:53
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Posted by Mark Rand on 20/09/2018 02:37:32:
Wahay, back to the days when magazines had floppy disks/CDs glued to the covers. laugh

Edited By Mark Rand on 20/09/2018 02:43:57

Yes! Back about '97 PC World gave out a superceded version of Turbocad (2D of course back then) that would do everything an amateur needed on a 286 and the s/w company was happy to live with the profits only from professionals buying the latest version. It could draw a dial with both imperial and metric tick marks in a matter of a minute and provide a file I could take to wok and print without special drivers. Of course Microsoft then worked hard to make new operating systems incompatible with old software.
Now the free 2D packages struggle with that benchmark and are development versions with bugs and deliberate failings like not producing transferable files, limited sizes, lots of aids like fillets removed etc.

Since most modellers only do a handful of drawings a year and then only of simple brackets and wheels the hit comes when the vendor thinks that minimal use is worth a massive £50 or more for software that will cease to work with the next operating system upgrade.

Ady120/09/2018 10:04:41
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Nice one Neil. Well done

Noel Murphy20/09/2018 11:29:17
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 20/09/2018 09:19:30:
Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 20/09/2018 08:08:27:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2018 21:48:02:

I'm afraid it will be PC only,

Good, so that will include Linux then??

Russell

I'm afraid not.

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 20/09/2018 09:49:22

Windows 7 please? Not just Win 10.

Noel

Neil Wyatt20/09/2018 11:42:22
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Posted by Noel Murphy on 20/09/2018 11:29:17:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 20/09/2018 09:19:30:
Posted by Russell Eberhardt on 20/09/2018 08:08:27:
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 19/09/2018 21:48:02:

I'm afraid it will be PC only,

Good, so that will include Linux then??

Russell

I'm afraid not.

Neil

Edited By Neil Wyatt on 20/09/2018 09:49:22

Windows 7 please? Not just Win 10.

Noel

W7 or later.

Neil

The Oily Rag20/09/2018 11:42:40
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Well done for readers Neil. However CAD is a big subject and in recent years there have been a number of CAD packages both 2D and 3D which have and have had serious shortcomings even for the casual user. However with careful searching around there are some serious packages available totally free of charge from major key players of very longstanding in industrial professional environments.

A couple of examples of the shortcomings of some of the recognised packages for users such as ourselves was TurboCad. For a long time it would not dimension angles at all or analyse angles. Its printing shortcomings drove me to distraction and I ended up with a thick book of Epson source coding make it work and I was working in the professional field at that time.

It is unfortunate that so many people have been taught that AutoCad is CAD. Clever marketing to educational establishments brought this about. multiple decades ago. However the suite of software that I use and have put together is:-

Draftsight for 2D. From Dassault Systems. Totally free just needs an internet connection and re-activation each year prompted by Dassault. Should anyone be nervous of the pedigree of Dassault then they are the originators of CATIA the overwhelming 3D and surface modeller used by most automobile manufacturers and very widely in aerospace and high tech like IBM. Yes there is a learning curve but the user interface now is very recognisable to AutoCad users.

Creo Elements Direct from Parametric Technology for 3D. completely free of charge. The only restriction is that there can only be 23 components in a given assembly in the free version. Pedigree? Parametric Technology were the designers and writers of "Pro-Engineer". An even bigger learning curve but it does everything it says on the tin. Again an internet connection required and annual reactivation.

For Printed Circuit board design, I use an aptly named package from Novarm called "DIPTRACE". Has huge libraries of components plus the ability to create further libraries of your own. Auto- routing is included. All totally free to the not-for-profit user. The only restriction in the free version is that of two signal layers only. Well I'm going to have a lot of difficulty etching multiple layers at the kitchen sink.

All of these have comprehensive tutorials available plus a number of video tutorials on-line. Each has a forum in particular Draftsight where help and support from experienced users is also totally free. Yes there is a learning curve but you only get out of something what effort you are prepared to put in.

regards

Ian

Edited By The Oily Rag on 20/09/2018 11:48:35

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