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Hopper12/07/2018 05:27:49
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Posted by peak4 on 12/07/2018 00:29:00:

...It's falling in Scotland where they have sought to deal with the specific social issues as well as the legal ones.

Here's one article, there are many others.

Very interesting article. Give the lads training, jobs and decent housing and the problem goes away. Who'd a thunk it? But of course there are not as many political points to be won by "molly-coddling them" as opposed to "cracking down" and "getting tough" on crime.

Jon12/07/2018 15:48:28
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Spot on Bill its happened and been legislated in other areas already going back 11 years.

Problem is the vocal ones pushing it not having a clue in to its implications.
With the increase in net and online sales there will be very very few shops in the future, therefore no one will be able to buy any tool for daily personal use no even cutlery.
Of course a tradesman working or driving/passing by a public place could get done for carrying an offensive weapon, theres no end to it.

Ron Laden12/07/2018 19:56:38
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Whatever they do, how are they going to police it..? Its like the chemicals/flammables etc that the post office and carriers say they no longer carry. You can go online and order almost all of it and the supplier will pack it and send it, how are the carriers to know whats in the parcel. Last week I ordered a litre bottle of ISO 99% and it arrived in a taped up cardboard box, no problem.

Ron

fizzy12/07/2018 20:36:30
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Just try getting your hands on sulphuric acid - near impossible. I got 12 litres of 96% delivered today but had to jump through hoops to get it. Problem is that pretty much all other acids are still unrestricted and many will cause just as much damage if used as a weapon.

Samsaranda13/07/2018 12:29:32
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Have regularly ordered Isopropanol from EBay and Amazon, gets delivered by Post Office, no problems. Try sending a parcel from our local Post Office and it’s the third degree on what’s in the parcel, has it got any batteries etc. I think a litre of Isopropanol is far more of a hazard than a AAA battery, but there again what do I know?

Dave W

SillyOldDuffer13/07/2018 12:39:09
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Jon13/07/2018 14:59:39
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Post Offices and Couriers do my fruit in the last 7 years. All in the interest of national security apparently.
Most of these couriers havent even a category for engineering.
Always a sigh at post office, "whats in it" every time even though they know me as a regular, greet with an abrupt "aluminium".

The main couriers and post office scan all items been going on for years and acts as Customs for export. Anything of interest package pulled for closer inspection and could take 5 months to then get to destination purposefully broken, has happened many times.

Even better are the main global couriers delivering items that the UK arm will not! ie DPD, TNT, UPS just to name three. Hows that work what that means is items they delivered i would not be able to send via UK courier.

Have batterys delivered at least once a month, oils, inflammables, weapons you name it.

V8Eng13/07/2018 18:09:27
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My nearest Post Office (well bit of shop counter) has a list of no-no’s on the counter.

Parcel Force has a long online list of what they can and cannot handle for both Uk and Int’l. Link here.

**LINK**

Looking at the latest Government proposed ban on sending bladed products, I cannot find an age related restriction for blades there but it does appear that they will not be sent to a domestic address, this could be a stupid nightmare for many ordinary people trying to get legitimate goods delivered!

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Edited By V8Eng on 13/07/2018 18:14:11

George Clarihew13/07/2018 22:33:42
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As Homer Simpson says "It just gets woise and woise"

Many many years ago, 1968 or thereabouts, I was sent to the Post Office to post a neatly wrapped brown paper parcel all securely tied up with strong string (an 8 inch cube).

Upon placing on the scale the postmaster asked what was in the parcel as it was very heavy for a parcel so small.

I replied honestly "it is a stone". Upon hearing this he said that I couldn't post a stone, now being an objectionable teenager I enquired why not as it was well wrapped, properly addressed and below their size and weight limits and I had the means to pay for its postage.

He then asked why I wanted to post a stone and I told him it was to help with the country's exports.

Funnily enough he said he didn't believe me and take it away.

So I went to another Post Office where it was accepted and paid for then was asked what was in such a heavy wee parcel and again I answered truthfully "a stone". This answer was followed up with "why would anyone want to post a stone"

I resisted the temptation to tell the nice lady that the addressee was building a house but replied honestly that the parcel was a sample of the stone quarried at the place I worked and a potential customer had asked for a sample.

And as they say at the end of a good book - "everybody lived happy ever after"

And at an airport have anybody ever tried answering truthfully to "did you pack this box yourself "

I did on two occasions, boy did I get a hard time before me and the box getting on to the plane.

not done it yet13/07/2018 23:15:49
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Posted by George Clarihew on 13/07/2018 22:33:42:

And at an airport have anybody ever tried answering truthfully to "did you pack this box yourself "

I did on two occasions, boy did I get a hard time before me and the box getting on to the plane.

George, I always reply ‘Of course not’. Because I never do.

On the way back from Canada one time, the guy asked me that and then asked me what was in the bag. Again, I told him that I didn’t pack it, but I knew who did - my wife. He asked me to take out the contents and there was a 3 legged cast iron triangle about 200- 250mm across, with loops on two ends and a spring at the other. I explained what it was,. All was well and we boarded the plane with it.

More recently, I left an adjustable spanner in my coat pocket by mistake, so I laid it on top of the coat at Stansted. The fellow asked me why, so I told him that I needed it to get into my car on our return and had forgotten to put it in the hold luggage. Again, I was believed and boarded the plane with my spanner.

Spanish security missed a bottle of liquid last time, but one. I didn’t tell them and packed my stuff as though I had no clue it was there (which I hadn’t, until the bag had been through the machine). Perhaps they would have been more careful had I not been an OAP and obviously not of middle eastern origin!

Mick Charity14/07/2018 07:08:56
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Posted by George Clarihew on 13/07/2018 22:33:42:

As Homer Simpson says "It just gets woise and woise"

Many many years ago, 1968 or thereabouts, I was sent to the Post Office to post a neatly wrapped brown paper parcel all securely tied up with strong string (an 8 inch cube).

Upon placing on the scale the postmaster asked what was in the parcel as it was very heavy for a parcel so small.

I replied honestly "it is a stone". Upon hearing this he said that I couldn't post a stone, now being an objectionable teenager I enquired why not as it was well wrapped, properly addressed and below their size and weight limits and I had the means to pay for its postage.

He then asked why I wanted to post a stone and I told him it was to help with the country's exports.

Funnily enough he said he didn't believe me and take it away.

So I went to another Post Office where it was accepted and paid for then was asked what was in such a heavy wee parcel and again I answered truthfully "a stone". This answer was followed up with "why would anyone want to post a stone"

I resisted the temptation to tell the nice lady that the addressee was building a house but replied honestly that the parcel was a sample of the stone quarried at the place I worked and a potential customer had asked for a sample.

And as they say at the end of a good book - "everybody lived happy ever after"

And at an airport have anybody ever tried answering truthfully to "did you pack this box yourself "

I did on two occasions, boy did I get a hard time before me and the box getting on to the plane.

There is a legend in the builders merchant industry that someone building a house in a remote part of the Scottish highlands/islands had the bricks delivered by RM parcel post. Each individual brick labelled & postage paid saved considerably on the cost to transport the whole lot

Samsaranda14/07/2018 14:28:06
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I see in the Parcel Force list of prohibited contents referred to in V8eng’s post, flammable liquids are forbidden, today our Postie delivered a litre bottle of Isopropanol that I ordered through Amazon, on the outside of the parcel it was marked as “medicine” is this the way that the trade now circumvents safety regulations?

Dave W

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