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Peter Ellis 518/05/2021 16:23:03
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Michael has kindly worked out that the castings are 565, not 585.

Still looking for drawings or a pic of the innards of a made one !


Mike Poole18/05/2021 17:36:29
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Posted by Hopper on 07/06/2018 05:54:05:

I made my own Myford-sized angle plates from a piece of scrap 6" x 4" angle iron from the local tip recycle shop. The thickness of the steel is well thick enough to make small angle plates, say the usual 2" x 4" and the like. I cut the material down to size in a friction disc cut-off saw. Made the slots with a combination of drilling, hacksawing, milling and filing, depending on my bent on the day. Raw angle iron is not perfectly square so the two flat surfaces were machined with a flycutter held in the lathe chuck and the angle plate bolted to the cross slide. A bit of hand scraping with blue on a glass plate finished them off just so.

Made a versatile dividing head body entirely from bits of scrap steel welded together too. So there are alternatives to castings.

A friend of mine is a brilliant welder/fabricator and it is amazing how he approaches a job, a machinist seems to think about removing material to reveal a finished article whereas a fabricator adds material to reach the required item followed by minimal machining as required.


IanT18/05/2021 17:41:17
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Posted by Andrew Tinsley on 07/06/2018 10:46:23:

Why not buy some cheap Chinese angle plates. In my limited experience. The ones I have seen are not square and the slots are rough. Just treat them as castings and machine them properly.

If the castings are made available then go that route. I don't think that economics come into it. Just a way of gaining valuable experience!


Same is true of a Keats Plate I purchased - a bit annoyed when I finally got around to using it and thought "I'd better check it, just in case". It's on the TUIT list....

Peter Ellis 519/05/2021 09:57:43
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Posted by Gas_mantle. on 23/06/2018 13:51:33:

I've bought wheel castings from the ebay guy so I can say he is a genuine seller and the items I've bought from him have all been great.

I am amazed that it is proving to be so difficult finding anything on these vice castings when thousands must have been made in colleges alone. The design is not showing up anywhere !


Howard Lewis19/05/2021 11:26:24
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No doubt, there are many folk who have made various items from C E S castings who still have the drawings, and would be prepared to lend them for others to make the particular device in question.

Lending does not contravene copyright laws.

Copying is allowed for personal study (Hence copies often end up in the workshop covered in greasy fingerprints! )


Russell Eberhardt19/05/2021 16:38:40
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When I bought my first milling machine, about 17 years ago, I followed Harold Hall's "Milling a complete course" and found it very instructive. The first project after making T-nuts was an angle plate, again using the CES castings. While buying chinese angle plates is quicker and cheaper that doesn't give a beginner the same experience.

I commend the OP for trying to take that route.


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