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not done it yet24/05/2018 07:31:25
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Yep, best alternative is “loctited”!

If it ain’t broke, why try to fix it?

Edited By not done it yet on 24/05/2018 07:32:17

Michael Gilligan24/05/2018 07:43:14
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Posted by Mark Rand on 24/05/2018 03:26:31:

... I quite often use Permabond 1046 for poor fits. Why? because I've got a couple of large bottles of the stuff and it's thicker than Loctite 603 or 648 smiley.

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Concise and helpful information, Mark yes

That's just the sort of note I would like to read in MEW articles.

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JasonB24/05/2018 07:48:03
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Could lead to trouble though. I have a few old coat hangers and often use them as they are thicker than fuse wiresmile p

Samsaranda24/05/2018 10:00:23
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Jason, dangerous to joke about substitution for fuses, many years ago I remember a joke being made “ use a 2BA bolt “ and the dimwit tried to fit one in the fuse holder , stopped before any damage was done but a close shave.

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Mike24/05/2018 10:30:18
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Back in the 1960s, when I was living in digs, my landlady complained she was getting shocks off her electric cooker. I went to the fuse box to pull the fuse, and found the cartridge had been replaced with a cut-down 6-inch nail. When I asked who had done such a stupid thing, she said it was her son, and he'd done it because six months previously the cooker kept blowing fuses. Another close shave...….

stefan ronde24/05/2018 11:01:03
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loctite 270 i prefer

not done it yet24/05/2018 11:23:41
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And there was the bloke, in the US, who used a bullet as a fuse in his car. Not sure ig he completely joined the Darwin awards, but certainly would only have been firing on one cylinder, at best!

Speedy Builder524/05/2018 13:48:06
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Will we have to be more precise about deburring to read such as "place 0.05mm radius on all edges and 45degree x 0.5mm chamfer on all holes. " or Like on the BBC, you will find Etc, Etc on page nn of the Radio Times, other listings are available. This is meant to be a Hobby Magazine, don't lets get too serious else Loctite will be just the start of a downward spiral.
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Neil Wyatt24/05/2018 18:34:59
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Posted by JasonB on 24/05/2018 07:04:53:

Nobody wanted anything changed until YOU brought up the subjectdevil

I asked for a one-word alternative to the 'verb' 'loctited' not paragraph-long ones...

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Neil Wyatt24/05/2018 18:36:32
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Posted by Mark Rand on 24/05/2018 03:26:31:

... I quite often use Permabond 1046 for poor fits. Why? because I've got a couple of large bottles of the stuff and it's thicker than Loctite 603 or 648 smiley.

Inspiration at last .... 'permabonded'.

Sorted!

Neil

not done it yet24/05/2018 18:51:05
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 24/05/2018 18:36:32:

Posted by Mark Rand on 24/05/2018 03:26:31:

... I quite often use Permabond 1046 for poor fits. Why? because I've got a couple of large bottles of the stuff and it's thicker than Loctite 603 or 648 smiley.

Inspiration at last .... 'permabonded'.

Sorted!

Neil

Inspiration - maybe. Sorted - No.

Still loctited for the vast majority, I would guess.smiley

But if it ends this thread, all well and good.!

Mike24/05/2018 18:57:14
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A pal who is a retired toolroom engineer always calls these engineering adhesives/threadlockers "the bad engineer's friend." But then, he calls my copies of Model Engineer "Toytown Engineering", so maybe he isn't such a good pal after all.....

JasonB24/05/2018 19:04:41
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Yes lets get back to proper engineering terms and methods and have "light press fit" "firm press fit" and " shrink fit" for these the male part will have to be turned to  "full" nominal size to varying amounts and the female will have to be "shy" of nominal. At least the novice knew where he stood with these terms and could easily measure them with steel rule and firm leg callipers.crook

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PS Neil is it's a sponsored article you will have to use "Truloced"

Edited By JasonB on 24/05/2018 19:07:49

Roderick Jenkins24/05/2018 19:07:05
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Having used "loctited" on this very forum back in October I remain sceptical about "permabonded" entering the language.

Anyway, I seem to be treading a lot of swarf about the house so I must go and electrolux the carpet. wink

Rod

Michael Gilligan24/05/2018 19:51:08
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One very good thing about Permabond is the little book by Mr. W.A. Lees

**LINK**

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Adhesives-Engineering-Design-W-Lees/dp/3662110342

... It's a great pity that they have not seen fit to update it.

I treasure my 1984 copy with its 'expert system' on floppy disk.

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Neil Wyatt24/05/2018 20:34:41
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Posted by JasonB on 24/05/2018 19:04:41:

Yes lets get back to proper engineering terms and methods and have "light press fit" "firm press fit" and " shrink fit" for these the male part will have to be turned to "full" nominal size to varying amounts and the female will have to be "shy" of nominal.

Good job you didn't use 'bare' instead of 'shy' face 3

XD 35125/05/2018 08:31:52
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For a joke i covered the labels of my various loctite products with new labels of my own design :

Retaining compound became " stick ya bastard " , sealer became "don't leak ya bastard" and threadlocker became "stay there ya bastard " .

Any guesses what i call insect repellent ???

I used to work with a toolmaker that called retaining compounds snot and parts held together by it as snotted - his theory was that the person that made parts that needed snot on them could only work to tolerances that snot could run through ! I can sort of see his point as it really is like liquid sticky tape !

Clive India25/05/2018 09:36:26
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Posted by XD 351 on 25/05/2018 08:31:52:

For a joke i covered the labels of my various loctite products with new labels of my own design:
Retaining compound became " stick ya bastard " , sealer became "don't leak ya bastard" and threadlocker became "stay there ya bastard " .
I used to work with a toolmaker that called retaining compounds snot and parts held together by it as snotted - his theory was that the person that made parts that needed snot on them could only work to tolerances that snot could run through ! I can sort of see his point as it really is like liquid sticky tape !

Good system. Like it.

Presumably demonstrates, despite numbers indicating otherwise, there are really only 3 types of Loctite.

I regularly us shitite as filler for keeping water out of electrical boxes. Muckite is the cheaper alternative.

 

Edited By Clive India on 25/05/2018 09:38:12

John Reese25/05/2018 17:19:39
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Some brand names have been adopted as generic terms: Crescent wrench, Kleins (lineman's pliers), Stillson wrench, etc. I think the same is happening with Loctite.

Dave Halford28/05/2018 19:37:30
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 24/05/2018 18:36:32:
Posted by Mark Rand on 24/05/2018 03:26:31:

... I quite often use Permabond 1046 for poor fits. Why? because I've got a couple of large bottles of the stuff and it's thicker than Loctite 603 or 648 smiley.

Inspiration at last .... 'permabonded'.

Sorted!

Neil

Doesn't 'permabonded' stray into the realm of a more permanent bond, one could even say 'araldited' smileysmiley

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