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choochoo_baloo30/03/2018 15:23:23
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A local electronics workshop was looking to clear out a couple of machine tools before Christmas, fortunately the manager sold them to me at a reasonable price - knowing they'd be going to a good home - before a trader swept in. Hence I had little time to do any detailed research on the model/features etc.

I know round head Colchesters in good knick, are well worth hanging on to. No paperwork came with it.

Therefore please can someone confirm whether this is the Master Mk1?

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Secondly, is this style of collet the correct fit for this model since the seller and I aren't sure!!

(image taken from this fleabay auction: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Colchester-Master-collet-chuck-and-assorted-collets/292498379255?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50427%26meid%3D1840c4187eb04781ae2b6aea631025ed%26pid%3D100678%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D292498379255%26itm%3D292498379255&_trksid=p2481888.c100678.m3607&_trkparms=pageci%3Afe34cbcd-3424-11e8-8df9-74dbd1809eb6%7Cparentrq%3A7744ad111620a8845999abd3fffb29ab%7Ciid%3A1)

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Thanks in advance.

Brian Sweeting30/03/2018 15:32:51
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Looks like a mk.1.

See here

http://www.lathes.co.uk/colchester/page2.html

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choochoo_baloo30/03/2018 15:39:13
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Posted by Brian Sweeting on 30/03/2018 15:32:51:

Looks like a mk.1.

See here

http://www.lathes.co.uk/colchester/page2.html

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Thanks Brian. I did skim those webpages. But I found it hard to discriminate between the Master Mk1 and Student Mk1 - is it simply a longer bed?

Ian Parkin30/03/2018 16:22:27
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A student should be 6” CH a master should be 6.5” CH

Having said that apparently colchester made most students 6.5” without changing the badge which states 6”

Masters were always 40 “ Between centres rather than 24 for the student

Its also a mk1 as it has the sliding handle for cross and longtidunal feed

Mk 1.5 ‘s have a lifting knob and a separate knob to cross and long

Mk 2 would be square head

Ian Parkin30/03/2018 16:28:21
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That collet set and chuck is good for that lathe

Its a bernerd multisize set on a LO taper fitting

Brian Sweeting30/03/2018 22:32:37
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Posted by choochoo_baloo on 30/03/2018 15:39:13:
Thanks Brian. I did skim those webpages. But I found it hard to discriminate between the Master Mk1 and Student Mk1 - is it simply a longer bed?

I couldn't see the gearbox lever on the mk.2.

sean logie31/03/2018 07:46:54
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Looks just like the one at my work ,and it's a Colchester Triumph 71/2 .Great machine .

Sean

Nicholas Farr31/03/2018 08:17:10
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Hi, below are scans of ads for a Student, Triumph and a Master.

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I think you have the Master.

Regards Nick.

thaiguzzi01/04/2018 15:49:20
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I also thought Students had the apron hand wheel on the left and the Masters on the right?

My Student was 24" between Centres and my Master 36". 6 and 6.5" centre heights.

The Triumph was always the Biggie.

Ian Parkin01/04/2018 16:22:22
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Hand wheels depend on whether a gap bed or not same on both models

choochoo_baloo04/04/2018 01:05:38
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Thanks all for the input. I agree it has to be the Mk1 Master.

thaiguzzi04/04/2018 06:20:04
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Posted by Ian Parkin on 01/04/2018 16:22:22:

Hand wheels depend on whether a gap bed or not same on both models

That would explain my straight bed Student having a L/H apron hand wheel and my gap bed Master having a R/H apron hand wheel....

Always preferred the L/H handwheel, seemed in the "proper" place...

Tim Russell 113/08/2019 14:13:39
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Guys, I've just posted a "Help Me Identify" request. It all sounds similar to this but without the cabinet base. Perhaps someone could assist, thanks.

Tim Russell 114/08/2019 14:41:13
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Received a data pack from Tony G, all is revealed thanks.

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