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carl timmins20/03/2018 17:59:45
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I have a DC motor

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machine-Spares/C1-Lathe-Spares/C1-19-Motor

I would like to control the spindle speed could anyone advise if this product would fit the bill?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/dc-motor-controllers/1034042/?searchTerm=103-4042&relevancy-data=636F3D3126696E3D4931384E525353746F636B4E756D626572266C753D656E266D6D3D6D61746368616C6C26706D3D5E285C647B362C377D5B4161426250705D297C285C647B337D5B5C732D2F255C2E2C5D5C647B332C347D5B4161426250705D3F292426706F3D3126736E3D592673743D52535F53544F434B5F4E554D4245522677633D4E4F4E45267573743D3130332D34303432267374613D3130333430343226

Muzzer20/03/2018 18:06:59
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Seems to be a controller for a single phase induction (AC) motor. Not unusual for the pen pushers at RS to describe something they don't have a clue about and get it completely wrong.

Short answer - no.

Murray

And all the DKM motors listed on the RS site are described as "reversible AC induction motor" and are truly piddle power. You'd struggle to even turn a machine with them, so presumably the controller is also miniscule. Not the most informative datasheet.

Edited By Muzzer on 20/03/2018 18:09:45

carl timmins20/03/2018 18:26:22
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Posted by Muzzer on 20/03/2018 18:06:59:

Seems to be a controller for a single phase induction (AC) motor. Not unusual for the pen pushers at RS to describe something they don't have a clue about and get it completely wrong.

Short answer - no.

Murray

And all the DKM motors listed on the RS site are described as "reversible AC induction motor" and are truly piddle power. You'd struggle to even turn a machine with them, so presumably the controller is also miniscule. Not the most informative datasheet.

Edited By Muzzer on 20/03/2018 18:09:45

Thank you for the reply Muzzer I was confused RS called it a DC controller but DKM said it was AC.

Will keep looking

norman royds 220/03/2018 18:50:08
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The one I am using is cheetah SME 2HP input 110 /220 240 ac 16 AMPS 50/60hz output ;0.90/0.180v dc 11AMPS so it give somewhere to start carl hope this some help regards norm

carl timmins20/03/2018 19:24:15
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Posted by norman royds 2 on 20/03/2018 18:50:08:

The one I am using is cheetah SME 2HP input 110 /220 240 ac 16 AMPS 50/60hz output ;0.90/0.180v dc 11AMPS so it give somewhere to start carl hope this some help regards norm

Thank you Norman for the information.

oldvelo20/03/2018 19:45:41
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Hi

More info on the end use would be useful. Assumption is mother of all misunderstanding

X1 Mill ?

No connection with KB Electronics on my part just satisfied user

Start looking here

**LINK**

Expensive but very reliable

More here using one from this source using one on a band saw.

**LINK**

John Haine20/03/2018 20:02:27
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I also use a KB Electronics one on my Novamill spindle.  It works very well, have never had anything blow except a fuse when the mill decided to execute a "G0" rather than "G1" feed into the material, stakllked the motor and broke the cutter.

Edited By John Haine on 20/03/2018 20:04:06

carl timmins20/03/2018 20:16:50
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Posted by oldvelo on 20/03/2018 19:45:41:

Hi

More info on the end use would be useful. Assumption is mother of all misunderstanding

X1 Mill ?

The motor was fitted to a Sieg C1 lathe now to be used on a milling attachment on a Clark C1 lathe with the lathe head stock missing so the controller is not present. So I have the lathe bed with the cross slide milling attachment fitted but no controller.

Is anything that RS components sell useful to me?

I wish I knew what I was doing.

 

 

Edited By carl timmins on 20/03/2018 20:20:47

Edited By carl timmins on 20/03/2018 20:21:29

oldvelo22/03/2018 02:30:34
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Hi Carl

Here is another link to a unit that may be useful. RS are way off with there description it is NOT AC to DC at all is is for a low power AC motor ( Extractor Fan)??? perhaps

**LINK**

Set up seems to be straight forward enough with the controller to match the motor.

Eric

 

Edited By oldvelo on 22/03/2018 02:35:32

carl timmins24/03/2018 15:58:51
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Thank you for your help EricPosted by oldvelo on 22/03/2018 02:30:34:

Hi Carl

Here is another link to a unit that may be useful. RS are way off with there description it is NOT AC to DC at all is is for a low power AC motor ( Extractor Fan)??? perhaps

**LINK**

Set up seems to be straight forward enough with the controller to match the motor.

Eric, thank you for your help but the one listed is for 110Volts I need 250Volts. I did not think that obtaining a speed controller would be so much trouble. It was my trying to get a small milling machine for little money but I am now going to purchase a machine to get me started. I have a vertical slide for my lathe but it sure has its limitations with my skills and ancillary tooling.

Edited By oldvelo on 22/03/2018 02:35:32

Michael Cox 124/03/2018 16:41:25
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Hi Carl,

Here is a motor/ controller combination similar to the one posted by oldvelo. This one is rated for 240 volts and available in the UK.

https://www.aimtools.co.uk/collections/spare-parts/products/katsu-550w-power-head-attachment-for-mini-lathe-machine-165013-and-165012

Mike

John Rudd24/03/2018 17:01:07
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Carl,

As the motor came from a Sieg mill, why not use the intended controller..? The XMT2315/230V.

Available from a Sieg dealer near you....Arceurotrade....

That way it minimises any setup issues with min/max speed settings and any overload/over current issues.

Edited By John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:24

carl timmins24/03/2018 17:35:44
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Posted by Michael Cox 1 on 24/03/2018 16:41:25:

Hi Carl,

Here is a motor/ controller combination similar to the one posted by oldvelo. This one is rated for 240 volts and available in the UK.

https://www.aimtools.co.uk/collections/spare-parts/products/katsu-550w-power-head-attachment-for-mini-lathe-machine-165013-and-165012

Mike

Mike, That looks interesting Thank you.

Carl

carl timmins24/03/2018 17:43:50
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Posted by John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:07:

Carl,

As the motor came from a Sieg mill, why not use the intended controller..? The XMT2315/230V.

Available from a Sieg dealer near you....Arceurotrade....

That way it minimises any setup issues with min/max speed settings and any overload/over current issues.

Edited By John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:24

John, I have looked at purchasing from Arceurotrade but as far as I can see I would have to purchase each individual part of the controller get a case to fit them in and wire it all up. I do feel useless in having to say this but I am sure that is beyond me, take three wire from a controller unit to the motor and three wires from my socket outlet to the controller unit is probably the best I will be able to do.

carl timmins24/03/2018 18:17:42
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Posted by John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:07:

Carl,

As the motor came from a Sieg mill, why not use the intended controller..? The XMT2315/230V.

Available from a Sieg dealer near you....Arceurotrade....

That way it minimises any setup issues with min/max speed settings and any overload/over current issues.

Edited By John Rudd on 24/03/2018 17:01:24

I have had a second look at purchasing the parts from Arceurotrade and the total price for all the parts minus the case, internal wire and suitable connectors will be around £120.00 I have also found a wiring schematic attached it is for the Clark CL250m lathe but I am told it will be the same.

**LINK**

How difficult would it be the assemble and wire a controller remembering I have very little electrical knowledge.

John Rudd24/03/2018 20:08:46
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I'm sure we can get you up and running...even if we have to do a point to point, step by step method of wiring up....

But I stress the choice is yours......!

carl timmins28/03/2018 17:38:01
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Posted by John Rudd on 24/03/2018 20:08:46:

I'm sure we can get you up and running...even if we have to do a point to point, step by step method of wiring up....

But I stress the choice is yours......!

John, Thank you for the offer of assistance but I have had good look around and will be purchasing a complete machine the Sieg X2.7 looks favorite.

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