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Tractor man11/03/2018 17:53:51
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Gents and Ladies,

yet another item that bamboozled me until I cracked its secret.

Quite an interesting item for those who have never seen one, i.e. me before I bought this.

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Tractor man11/03/2018 18:02:18
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In the central image the items inside the centre hole are hardened steel rollers that float freely. No manner of adjustment.

Mike E.11/03/2018 18:05:33
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Looks similar to a floating reamer holder for chambering rifle barrels.

Rainbows11/03/2018 18:06:40
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Was going to say thread roller, might be time to replace those screws though

mechman4811/03/2018 18:30:49
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Tapping box... as the arbour rotates clockwise the rollers ? inside rotate / cam effect, to grip the tap & release when rotated anti clockwise....? sized for 4.5 to 8 mm taps

​George.

Rik Shaw11/03/2018 18:33:44
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Not seen one before but I'd guess it to be either an "external" tailstock "centre" or a planisher.

Rik

Speedy Builder511/03/2018 18:53:45
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Still in business

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Neil Wyatt11/03/2018 20:00:46
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A roller clutch chuck to hold rod for threading?

Tim Stevens11/03/2018 21:43:19
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Or further to Neil's suggestion, an 'automatic' self tightening drilling chuck?

Tim

David Standing 111/03/2018 22:26:03
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It's a quick action drill chuck.

Martin Connelly12/03/2018 11:09:06
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Is it a stud driver? You can buy them with three rollers that are in wedge shaped slots so that they tighten on the stud as the stud is being driven.

Martin C

Neil Wyatt12/03/2018 11:17:34
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yes, I was pretty much right but over-thought it, it's just a quick drill chuck.

Tractor man12/03/2018 13:27:27
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Success, yes its a quick drill chuck.

Tapping would be a problem as you would not be able to withdraw the tap.

It works very much like a stud removal tool but is far too well made for that job.

Once in the quill drills can be fitted and removed without stopping the spindle and no pesky chuck key to find in the swarf!

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well done Neil, Tim and David for identifying it.

David Standing 112/03/2018 13:35:06
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I cheated on my ID, there's one for sale on eBay.de devil

Bazyle12/03/2018 21:33:16
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Not sure about this 'not stopping the drill' aspect. I have a keyless chuck that you push the body one way to open and the other to close but it has to be spinning to work. That means you have to hold the drill to do up and it will suddenly snatch and spin. Seems a daft idea.

Tractor man13/03/2018 08:45:30
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Bazyle, apparently these chucks were designed for production where stopping and starting the spindle wasted time, costing money.
If you're constantly changing drills on a job it can come in handy. Plus the self tightening feature of the chuck in my original post is good for people with poor grip strength, I sometimes struggle with standard keyless chucks.
Bazyle13/03/2018 13:13:14
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yes I appreciate my chuck was intended for production, and being 1MT only small drills however it's the bit about holding the drill bit in your hand that I find problematic. If you did a change every minute in a working day on the line what would happen to your fingers.

Tractor man13/03/2018 16:25:09
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Bazyle I didn't mean to teach you to suck eggs so I'm sorry old you thought I was.
I think you have a wahlstrom type chuck? A knurled collar and a plane tapered nose looking like a keyed chuck but without a gear ring.
I have one similar and it is quite a knack to change bits I admit, but I guess that workers would have gotten on with the job prior to elf and safety.
I hold the shank of the drill rather than the flutes and seem to be ok changing at 1300 RPM.
But obviously going from a 1/64 drill to 3/8 would need a speed change anyway.
Maybe I will fit it in my jig borer with variable speed pulleys.
jimmy b13/03/2018 18:16:10
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How exactly does it work? I'm struggling with the whole idea!

Jim

Tractor man13/03/2018 19:50:46
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Jimmy,
The chuck works by allowing the bit to.be removed and refuted while the spindle is turning.
Holding the knurled collar and pulling down releases the drill, holding the nose of the chuck closes it on the bit.
There is a video on YouTube if you look for quick release drill chucks.
One book I use advises their use is good on a mill where the spindle takes time to slow to a stop.
The chuck I posted about initially works by a set of cam operated rollers. Holding the collar while it is running opens the rollers and releasing it snaps them back onto the drill.
Both types are good if your changing bits often.

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