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Roderick Jenkins03/03/2017 17:04:17
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There is a Murad Bormilathe lurking on ebay at present **LINK**

I have no connection whatsoever with the vendor, just a heads up for the lathe buffs (at the risk of upsetting anybody who has spotted it but is keeping a low profile)

Rod

ega03/03/2017 21:55:59
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I noticed this and thought it looked somewhat molested and incomplete.

ega06/03/2017 16:32:59
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Apparently went for £470 so you were right that there would be interest in it.

Eric Arthrell12/03/2017 11:03:24
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Hello folks

I purchased the Lathe delivery on Tuesday hopefully it will service my needs ,looking forward to having it.

Regards Eric

Michael Gilligan12/03/2017 15:44:42
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Posted by Eric Arthrell on 12/03/2017 11:03:24:

Hello folks

I purchased the Lathe delivery on Tuesday hopefully it will service my needs ,looking forward to having it.

Regards Eric

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Well done, Eric

An interesting machine ...

I look forward to your 'review' of it

MichaelG.

Neil Wyatt12/03/2017 17:41:54
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Posted by Eric Arthrell on 12/03/2017 11:03:24:

Hello folks

I purchased the Lathe delivery on Tuesday hopefully it will service my needs ,looking forward to having it.

Regards Eric

Hello Eric,

It's a fascinating concept, I hope you enjoy it and get good use from it.

Neil

Roderick Jenkins12/03/2017 18:23:35
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Yes, please keep in touch and let us know how you get on with this fascinating machine.

Cheers,

Rod

Eric Arthrell15/03/2017 06:58:59
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Thank you all for your interest and comments.

The lathe arrived on Tuesday, the former owner as had the lathe for the last twenty years and has now moved up to a larger lathe. It was in far better shape than the flea bay photo's implied and came with 4 change gears, 3 of the guards and the lead screw dial.

I shall give it a good clean check for wear and mount it on a bench and let you know how I get on and what needs attention.

regards Eric

Michael Gilligan15/03/2017 07:19:56
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Posted by Eric Arthrell on 15/03/2017 06:58:59:

... It was in far better shape than the flea bay photo's implied ...

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That's a great start yes

MichaelG.

Eric Arthrell21/03/2017 06:33:22
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Well so far so good.

Seems to be in a fair condition ,I have not run it up properly as yet as I need to change the oil in the head stock bearing housing .

The change gears that came with the lathe are 16DP whilst the gears on the lathe head are 12DP At the moment I am try to find out the details of the gear change banjo that was used on the lathe.

The one thing that I can see being a pain is as both head and tail stock at movable in the vertical axis, is setting headstock to tail stock after any adjustment ,for this reason I have ordered a Dial Co-Axial Centering Alignment Indicator.

This little lathe fits perfect in its new location, yes it was a good wedge but it is already keeping me mentally active ,I spent a good number of years as a maintenance fitter and coded welder so looking forward to making swarf in my sanity box.

Regards Eric

Eric Arthrell27/03/2017 18:11:48
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Made progress tweeked and cleaned all slides fitted new gib screws .

One thing that is puzzling me is .according to literature the largest lead screw driven gear is 100t at 12dp this would give me a gear dia of 8.5 " it will not fit inside the guard case. The gears that came with the machine are 16dp, 100 teeth gear at 16dp =6.375 they will fit.

I can only conclude that the spindle stud driver is at 16dp together with the rest of the change gears up to the lead screw and that the spindle gear driven is 12dp.

does this seem logical?

Regards Eric

Michael Gilligan27/03/2017 19:29:41
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Posted by Eric Arthrell on 27/03/2017 18:11:48:

I can only conclude that the spindle stud driver is at 16dp together with the rest of the change gears up to the lead screw and that the spindle gear driven is 12dp.

does this seem logical?

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Very yes

I guess you need to find some photos of the original.

MichaelG.

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Edit: Check out the penultimate photo on this page:

http://www.lathes.co.uk/murad/page3.html

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 27/03/2017 19:35:04

Eric Arthrell28/03/2017 07:03:33
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Thank you for your reply Michael.

Looking at the photographs visually, I think I am on the money and it is they way I will proceed .

Regards Eric

Eric Arthrell02/05/2017 22:58:11
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Quick up date

Chuck stuck fast, Working on change gears and banjo's to enable me to turn1-7/8"x 8TPI .

Managed to source a 1-7/8" x 8tpi face plate, also most the change gears to enable me to turn the required thread form, if I have to turn the back plate off and turn a replacement.

It will require a extra banjo due to the ability of the head stock to raise and lower.

The compound slide as more slack than you no what so will need sorting. Was it worth it ? you bet first time my mind as been in overdrive for a long time .

Hopper03/05/2017 00:04:16
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"Sanity box" luvvit. So true. Keep us posted on your project, sounds interesting. ISTR the son of chap who made the Bormilathe posted on this forum a few years back. Some interesting discussion of the old chap's colorful background.

Speedy Builder503/05/2017 06:56:21
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Certainly an interesting lathe, but why were the headstock and tailstock moveable in the vertical plane/ If there were a slotted cross slide, I could see that the headstock travel would be good for milling. But as a lathe, once the headstock height was altered, then the lathe tool height would have to be changed on the saddle cross slide. Perhaps someone could enlighten me as to the usefulness of this lathe.
BobH

Michael Gilligan03/05/2017 07:57:15
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Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 03/05/2017 06:56:21:

Certainly an interesting lathe, but why were the headstock and tailstock moveable in the vertical plane/ If there were a slotted cross slide, I could see that the headstock travel would be good for milling.

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dont know

Bob,

There are some nice pictures of the slotted cross slide on the page that I linked previously.

MichaelG.

Speedy Builder503/05/2017 08:42:07
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MG
Ah, that makes sense now.
BobH

Frances IoM03/05/2017 08:44:02
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look at name:
BORe MIll LATHE
explains a lot
Ady103/05/2017 09:58:12
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The one thing that I can see being a pain is as both head and tail stock at movable in the vertical axis

Once you find a fast solution to fixing this issue then it will become an annoyance of the past

The only problem is that so few were made you are unlikely to ever have a Murad Bormilathe community to help you along with issues like this

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