|Cornish Jack||19/11/2016 10:58:12|
|1118 forum posts|
SWMBO has decided that a replacement digi camera is required for Xmas. Doing the on-line search bit offers several with (at the moment) the Sony Cybershot HX90/90V and the Panasonic Lumix TZ70 as the likely best bets. Do any members have experience of either or both and any recomendations in this area, please?
PS - MUST be Compact, NOT Bridge!!
|Phil P||19/11/2016 11:12:05|
|627 forum posts|
I have a Lumix TZ70, and it is by far the best all round camera I have ever owned, it does everything that my Canon SLR does and the optical zoom range is amazing. The build quality seems pretty good as well.
Best of all is the battery lasts far longer than any other camera I have owned.
You will not regret getting one.
|Brian Wood||19/11/2016 11:26:25|
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|mark smith 20||19/11/2016 11:55:05|
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I bought my wife a Lumix several years ago ,and despite my having a Nikon DSLR ,i seem to use the lumix most of the time,simply for the ease of use.
|Neil Wyatt||19/11/2016 12:09:07|
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I bought my wife a Nikon one and it's really nice.
Their bridge cameras are outstanding too.
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I do have a Sony RX100 which is a similar size to the one you mention. It takes a great image and is easy to carry around BUT it is not the easiest camera to use ! Much of the adjustment is accessed via multiple screens and , for me as a longtime photographer used to looking through a viewfinder, I find composition on a screen at arms length difficult! I think she should see and handle the camera before you shell out your " hard earned"
If you want to give her a pressy on Christmas morning why not give har a card containing an " Invitation" to accompany you to the local camera store after Christmas..........( Who knows they may even have a New Year sale 😉 ! )
|Phil P||19/11/2016 13:34:23|
|627 forum posts|
Just another point to add.
The TZ70 has a viewfinder, that was one of the main things that made me choose that camera, it is a digital viewfinder but it works extremely well. That also helps battery life by not having the main screen on all the time.
The TZ70's might indeed be on special offer soon as its replacement, the TZ80 has been out for a while now.
Edited By Phil P on 19/11/2016 13:36:00
|Nigel Bennett||19/11/2016 14:23:23|
339 forum posts
I've had several compact Panasonic jobs, but the last one was the worst camera I've ever had. I was delighted when it fell on to a concrete road and broke! So I bought a Nikon S7000. Superb camera, very pleased with it. Optical zoom is amazing, too. Current price £130 - £150 according to the Web. I'd wait until after the festivities have subsided - price may drop afterwards!
|Rik Shaw||19/11/2016 14:30:15|
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Wife and I both bought Lumix compacts a few months back, she chose a TZ60. With me it was a toss up between TZ80 and TZ100. The TZ80 won with its super zoom. Both cameras a pleasure to use with that rarity on compacts - a "proper" view finder. Super quality photos as well and mine has 4k movie facility. Well pleased!
PS I have to admit that the Canon EOS 650D gathers a bit more dust of late.
|Neil Wyatt||19/11/2016 15:03:55|
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Perhaps its the same one-eye thing that makes me struggle with eyepieces but nothing improved my photography more than the combination of autofocus and a live view screen.
Even 'DSLRs' are now being made without viewfinders now (although they aren't really 'reflex' cameras without one).
I will agree with Rik on one thing; I thought I would probably use my 450D for some 'proper' photography but for anything other than astro work the Nikon 520D leaves it streets behind.
|Geoff Theasby||19/11/2016 15:19:19|
|611 forum posts|
My Panasonic Lumix FS-35 is great! It takes all my own photos which are used in my Club News column, which are about 6MB when I send them to Diane. It's small but not tiny, the battery is good for 500 shots, and I have never yet filled up the memory card on a mission. Basic adjustments only, I paid about £130 5/6 years ago. Again, usual disclaimer)
|Cornish Jack||19/11/2016 16:34:22|
|1118 forum posts|
Many thanks, gentlemen. Sounds like the Panasonic is much favoured.
Norman - nice thought but it doesn't work like that!! SWMBO reckons that since I have a workshop, I must be an expert on all things mechanical, electrical, etc. and, therefore I will make an appropriate choice.
I did, in fact, lean towards the TZ70 except for the pixel count - 12mp as against the 18.2 for the Sony. I do understand that the pixel count isn't the be-all and end-all of it. (I have one of the original Minolta EX 1500s and the output from that 1.5 mps is still outstanding!) A major requirement is low light photography - as in 'moon-on-sea'. Her present Canon compact is, similarly, 12 Mps and can't 'produce the goods'. Could very well end up 'coin -tossing' !
|Raymond Anderson||19/11/2016 16:50:44|
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Seeing as my camera gave up the ghost a few weeks back, this thread will be of use to me.
I notice the Lumix TZ70 has got a Leica lens very good plus point.. The whole package has very good reviews.
|Brian Baker 1||19/11/2016 17:22:55|
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Greetings, I have used several panasonic Lumix cameras, and they have all been super. I have had several ME covers from the cheapest, a FS 16, now sadly no longer available. I also use a FS 35, and have recently purchased a TZ 60.
I have taken thousands of photograps with these cameras, but prefer the FS 16, because it just slips into my top shirt pocket, ready for instant use.
I tend to purchase a model when it is being cleared for a new one.
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Rather than pixel count sensor size tends to matter more. Less noise the bigger they are to some extent but they keep stuffing more and more pixels in. So when you compare Sony with Panasonic do check the sensor size.
I rate cameras on how well they work in none optimal conditions. I don't need a compact any more, I have an Olympus Pen m 4/3 I bought to try that format out so use that if I want something small and light. If I put their compact standard zoom lens on it many bridge and compact cameras would be larger.
I can only mention what I found on compacts. The more expensive Canon's can be very good. A Panasonic I bought is now used by my wife. It's fine under decent conditions. She get's good photo's out of it. I have used a number of tiny sony cameras with a slide over lens cover. In fact I put one of my older ones on ebay recently. A dsc - t 5 or something like that. It went very quickly. They are decent cameras but often leave dark areas under mixed conditions, very bright sunshine and some light shadow. The usual camera problem. What's surprising though is they can be recovered with a bit of post processing. I'd tend to favour Sony over Panasonic who also make their own sensors. Sony seem to be leading the race on sensors even forcing Canon to revise some of theirs on their DSLR's. All the sensor makers seem to be playing catch up with them.
If your tempted to go mirrorless interchangeable lens or M 4/3 in other words they do come with a decent sized sensor but there is a tendency to get what you pay for. My first one was the cheapest Olympus Pen available. I later upgraded it to a more expensive one and despite sensor being the same spec etc it was like an entirely different camera. A lot better in a number of respects. A lot of people loved their very cheap Pen's and went on from their. Some just bought the Panasonic ones. Discussing these makes is an emotional subject for some people so I am not going to try.
Sorry Neil. I've never looked at a Nikon compact since pointing one into a slightly shady corner in a camera shop and finding it wouldn't focus. They can be right cowboys at the cheaper end of the camera range but then they all can be at times.
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It might be worth mentioning that Amazon have started their Black Friday sale. Last year there was some really serious reductions on some camera gear. The other nice thing about Amazon is that returns are simple, It's not that easy to actually handle a camera these days or be entirely sure about what is being bought.
Ebay can also be very good for models that are or have reached the end of their run. I've bought a number like that and have never had a single problem with them. The updates are often meaningless anyway. More pixels is usually favourite on compacts. Sony however sometimes update to a new range of sensors.
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I have an Olympus VR-350 digi; its chunky, but I like chunky cameras & the plethora of apps it has on it covers just about everything you would need. My wife has a Nikon Coolpix S2550 that is slim enough to slide into a shirt pocket or small handbag & that also has enough apps on it to cover everyday photography. I also have a Sony DSLR but that has been relegated to the wardrobe for some time now as either of the above more than suits my needs these days.
|Geoff Theasby||19/11/2016 19:44:46|
|611 forum posts|
Don't be too impressed with the Leica name on Panasonic cameras. A top of the range Leica M8 was about 8,000 quid last time I looked. In a camera costing 50 times less, not much transfers over. In a photo competition I entered with a picture taken at full zoom with my FS-35, I was marked down for lack of clarity. That's a very demanding test, though.
|Ian S C||20/11/2016 09:25:36|
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I have a Sony Cybershot W-5 bought 10 years ago, the things that attracted me to it were the large screen, 2 1/2", and the two AA Metal Hydride batteries. The size of the body is 95 mm x 60 mm x 30 mm, so it's a bit fatter than some cameras, but it's been ok for me.
Ian S C
|Neil Wyatt||20/11/2016 09:44:51|
17876 forum posts
I doubt current Nikons have any low light problems, they are particularly low noise even at iso 3200 and use an orange LED for focusing. The latest iteration of my wife's camera even has bluetooth.
Edited By Neil Wyatt on 20/11/2016 09:46:06
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