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Thread: Pipe/Tube bender
23/06/2013 00:09:16

Hi Tony,

There are pipe benders in MEW issue 33, issue 83, and issue 166.



Thread: Aircraft General Discussion
21/06/2013 22:51:16
Posted by jason udall on 19/06/2013 21:16:05:
After every flight, QANTAS pilots fill out a form, known as a 'gripe sheet' to tell mechanics about problems with the aircraft. The mechanics fix the problem, and then document their repairs on the form.?Here are some actual maintenance problems submitted by the pilots (marked with a 'P' and the solutions recorded (marked by an 'S' by maintenance engineers, who by the way have a sense of humour:P: Left inside main tyre almost needs replacement.?S: Left inside main tyre almost replaced.?P: Test flight OK, auto-land very rough.?S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.?P: Something loose in cockpit.?S: Something tightened in cockpit.?P: Dead bugs on windshield.?S: Live bugs on back order.?P: Auto pilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.?S: Can't reproduce problem on the ground.?P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.?S: Evidence removed.?P: DME volume unbelievably loud.?S: DME volume set to more believable level.?P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.?S: That's what friction locks are for.?P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode.?S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.?P: Suspect crack in windshield.?S: Suspect you're right.?P: Number 3 engine missing.?S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.?P: Aircraft handles funny.?S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right and be serious.?P: Target radar hums.?S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.?P: Mouse in cockpit.?S: Cat installed in cockpit.?P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.?S: Took hammer away from midget.

Edited By jason udall on 19/06/2013 21:17:09

Thanks for that Jason. Funniest thing I've read on this forum in weeks, although "doubleboost" John's posts on Mad Modder take some beating for all round education and entertainment value.


edit: where do these bloody 'smilies' come from.

Edited By GaryM on 21/06/2013 22:53:19

Thread: Anyone wear Vari-focal specs?
15/06/2013 10:14:47

Hi Ed,

I would echo the comments about your prescription changing. I have vari-focals and because my prescription is high, around -8, I paid more for Zeiss high index lenses. The trouble is, if you're in your fifties, then as others have said your near vision might change fairly quickly and then you will need to replace them which is not cheap. I've resorted to using an older pair of single vision glasses for most activities apart from driving. I also resent the way we are restricted to letterbox frames because of fashion. These are pretty useless for vari-focals and I've been searching for some round frames for years.

One last thought, don't throw your old pairs out. As your near vision gets worse they become useful again.


Thread: X3 milling
04/06/2013 00:15:43
Posted by Chris Heapy on 03/06/2013 23:38:37:

Another way - possibly better than using the vice - would be to mount that piece of steel lengthways along the bed, standing on a packing piece and use a clamp at each end, then use the endmill flutes to cut both sides of the workpiece without having to re-mount it. The result will be as accurately parallel as your machine is capable of milling.

For the 'flip', just mill the piece as usual held in the vice, then rotate it 180deg (like a propellor blade in front of you ). Any inaccuracy would be equalised and the result (should) be a parallel bar.

I like the idea of mounting it on the bed. It seems so obvious when someone points it out to you. There are just so many ways of doing the same thing. As I said to Andrew I'll have to leave it until the weekend now. sad

I understood what you meant by the 180 flip but couldn't get why it would equalise out any inaccuracy. Say for example (with exaggeration) the right side of the vice base was 0.1" higher and you were machining a piece 1" high then after the first side was machined, the piece would be 0.1" larger at the left end. Then when the piece was flipped in the vice, wouldn't the right end start off 0.2" higher than the left. If this was now machined until flat, wouldn't the piece still have a 0.1" taper left to right? The penny will probably drop soon.


03/06/2013 23:47:20

Andrew, I think you're right about the swarf. It was on the last cut and as the total width of the two parallels was ~19mm and I was taking cuts of 3mm the last one was ~1mm. The end mill was a no-name one from RDG and as Dormer 12mm end mills seem to be about £30 it would probably fall within the definition of 'cheap'. I might have a go at checking the tram at weekend.


03/06/2013 22:11:29

Thanks for the input Chris & Neil.

I did cut it dry Chris, as I said above I've not got round to buying any soluble yet. I'll try some more test cuts when I've got some and see what I learn. Also, your eyes don't deceive you, the finish isn't good. Material was bought as EN1A.

Can't get my head round your "flip it 180 deg" idea at the moment. It seems to me that it will still taper. I'll think about it a bit more.

I think I just need more experience with different bits of steel. One of the chaps in the engineering workshop at my place of work told me a while back that bought in materials had become a lot more variable in recent years.


03/06/2013 19:06:16
Posted by JasonB on 03/06/2013 18:51:56:

Assuming you took your first 3mm cut off the front (towards you) side of the work what direction was the work traveling in?

Oh it also tells me you need a vice.

Edited By JasonB on 03/06/2013 18:52:14

Work was travelling right to left (conventional milling). I've been very careful to avoid climb milling until I know better what I'm doing.

I have a vice, it is further along the table. I was using Harold Hall's technique for making a parallel by using two cylinders bolted to the angle plate. Then take a light cut off the top of both cylinders and mount the workpiece on top. I think it is supposed to ensure that the two sides are parallel to a much better accuracy than just mounting in the vice.


03/06/2013 18:48:12

To throw a further query into the mix, one cut resulted in this:-


I'm sure this will tell most of you quite a lot, but it didn't tell me much apart from something might be wrong.


03/06/2013 18:40:10

Andrew, sorry for the delay responding, been in the garden all afternoon. Of course you are right about the handle speed it should have been 1 rps, doh! I can't even go back and edit it now.

Comments like "In theory D/2 is to be avoided as it hammers the teeth as they enter a cut." are really useful to newbies. I've not read that in any of the articles, books and forums. I'm not sure I understand why though.

I only have one item of carbide tooling at present and that is a boring bar.

There's a lot more to this lark than meets the eye. surprise


03/06/2013 14:14:19

Thanks for the comment Paul. I'm beginning to get the feeling that I'm pussyfooting around here with tiny cuts. That's why I put X3 in the thread title as the experience of someone who owns the same machine is invaluable. I've seen your pics of your flood system and you're right about the power feed, I hadn't even considered one until now although they are a lot of cash and a bandsaw might be a better choice for saving time. wink

I'll try some of the suggestions and let you all know how I get on.


03/06/2013 14:05:39

Thanks for the comments Andrew, Bazyle, Chris and Ian.

Andrew: I think I am just getting the hang of these tooth load calculations. 2 thou per tooth per rev doesn't sound much does it. It is a four flute end mill. I think I'd struggle to wind the X feed much faster than 1 rpm which is how I got my approximate 100 mm/min. I was going to try a squezee bottle as Ian suggests as I don't have a facility for flood coolant and was hoping not to go down that route as it will entail a lot more mess. The cutters were about £6 each from one of the usual UK suppliers so I don't know if that's cheap or not.

Bazyle: I think it may have been rubbing for some of the early cuts as I started off with about 0.25mm DOC and feeding slower. I was keeping to D/4 for width as various people suggest although when I machined between the flanges on the cast iron cylinder for the S50 I'm making, the cut seemed fine.

Chris: As they are parallels I think the flatness is more important than appearance but I'll try the flycutter sometime soon on some scrap.

Ian: I'll get some soluble soon. I hadn't realised at first that some people apply it with a bottle, I thought it was only useful if you had a coolant pump.


03/06/2013 10:41:33

Thanks for the reply Jason. I started this job with a brand new cutter as I think my previous one had been blunted a little on the S50 castings. I'll try your suggestion on some spare metal and see how it goes, I'm usually over-cautious.

I bought the common set of three fly cutters at Harrogate and just the other day sharpened the largest one to the shape 'Bogs' suggests on Mad Modder. Haven't tried it yet though. I also need to get some soluble oil and use it. I tried some non-soluble cutting and tapping oil but it seemed to make matters worse by making the chips stick around the cutter.


03/06/2013 08:45:05
I've been making a basic pair of parallels in a size that my cheapo set didn't contain (1.25" ). I used a piece of 3" x 3/8" flat steel. When I sawed the bar down the middle I left rather too much to mill off each piece (approx. 0.22" ). I have finished them now but was wondering if you would have used a different method for removing the surplus on the mill as I'm just learning milling. I have an X3 mill and took repeated cuts with a 12mm end mill of 3 mm wide x 0.5 mm deep at 500 rpm with no coolant and hand feed of about 100 mm/min. Yes, that is a lot of winding back and forth and I realise that I should have cut more off with the saw but would I have been better off using different cutting depth, width, feed or rpm? I've read as many threads as I can find on the subject and also Tubal Cain's 'Model Engineer's Handbook' and Harold Hall's milling books. I know people say the mill will let you know when you are pushing it too far but this is difficult for a beginner to judge.
Thanks for any suggestions.

Edited By GaryM on 03/06/2013 08:45:53

Thread: 3D printing Harold Hall's Grinding Rest
30/05/2013 13:51:02

While not wishing to resurrect the debate about hidden text and page displays, I was having trouble with this page and found that if I turn compatibility view off the page displays perfectly. If I then turn it on again text is hidden. Weird? I'm forced to use IE at work but detest it like the plague.


Thread: download
27/05/2013 23:01:06

Aren't the magazine owners just trying to protect themselves against illegal copying?

Not that I'm justifying the system, just suggesting why it is done this way. If I can't get a particular music album on CD and have to buy a digital copy I still like to be able to download the MP3. Which is why I steer clear of the well known fruit music store. Then again I'm in my fifties and still actually buy music. The vast majority of twenty-somethings have never paid for music and don't see why they should start now.


Thread: Heritage steam under coal threat
27/05/2013 22:21:05

Maybe all the preserved railways will have to switch to 5" gauge. wink

North Yorkshire Moors Railway would be entertaining at that scale.


Thread: Help Needed Please
23/05/2013 11:24:48

Hi Dave,

Why not pay Huddersfield Society of Model Engineers a visit.



Thread: Dates for Harrogate 2014
23/05/2013 11:06:12
Posted by David Blunn on 23/05/2013 06:47:50:

Ok, looks like Sunday is the best......but I might try and get a leave pass for a second day, just have to find something that might keep SWMBO busy so she doesn't notice I'm missing ; )

Thanks again one and all, Dave

Hi David,

Encourage your wife to go to the Turkish Baths for a spa treatment.


There are lots of model engineering widows to be found in there when the exhibition is on. My wife is one of them.wink

Also, she will be less concerned about any money you spend as it will probably be less than she spends.


Thread: Buying descision
22/05/2013 20:46:22


Arc Eurotrade have a special offer on the C6 at the moment including some of the accessories you'll inevitably need:



Edited By Gary Marland on 22/05/2013 20:47:21

Thread: Complete beginner checking in and asking the usual question!
21/05/2013 00:19:32

Fizzy, this forum really needs a "like" button. smiley


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