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Thread: Myford ID grinder arbors
16/05/2022 17:08:57

This is my internal grinding setup (I don't have the belt guard casting):

grinder.jpg

I got one internal spindle arbor with my grinder. Judging by the patina and style I judge it to probably be original Myford manufacture:

internal_spindle.jpg

My spindle thread is the same, 5/8" 20 tpi Whitworth RH. The key dimensions of my arbor are:

Taper small end: ~0.235"

Taper large end: 0.547"

Length of taper: 1-1/16"

Diameter of plain cylindrical section: 0.471"

Diameter of grinding wheel cylindrical section: Nominally 3/8", but is tapered by ~12 thou along the length

The internal thread for the screw that holds the grinding wheel is 1/4" 26tpi RH, ie, BSF.

I have the original manual for my MG12, with the correct serial number manually typed in red on the page regarding serial numbers. The section on the internal attachment is unhelpful. Mostly about how to fit it, and how to do the initial fitting and alignment if it was bought at a later date rather than with the base machine.

Andrew

16/05/2022 14:23:50

I have an older MG12. The internal spindle bolts to the front of the wheel spindle, replacing a plate, as opposed to the later pulldown internal spindle. The dimensions given above do not relate to the internal arbor I have. As far as I am aware the internal spindle didn't change between the MG9 and MG12.

Andrew

Thread: New To CAD? No, but....
14/05/2022 09:26:08
Posted by David Jupp on 14/05/2022 08:04:07:

...the enclosed area in the sketch that defines the solid or hole...

As per my example.

If a hollow tube, or shape, is inherently part of the design then I tend to implement it using sketches. But for smaller holes, especially if countersunk, counterbored, or threaded, I use the 'hole' function. The 'hole' function also allows one to take account of the drill point; useful when checking whether a blind hole will unintentionally break through or not.

Andrew

Thread: Minimum depth of cut possible with carbide tooling on S7
13/05/2022 14:07:26

Best to sit down and put on the seat belt before looking at prices for CBN inserts.

Andrew

Thread: 3 phase query - for a charity project in Africa
13/05/2022 10:51:29

When one is dirt poor needs must. The heating elements are a non-starter due to power requirements. Best option is to try running the fan motor with a Steinmetz connection and see what happens.

Andrew

Thread: Minimum depth of cut possible with carbide tooling on S7
13/05/2022 10:42:09

How is an "excellent" finish defined? I'm generally happy with an Ra value in the range 1 to 3 um.

I rarely take cuts of less than a few thou, and only use CCGT inserts for aluminium and plastic. The finish one gets with CCMT inserts at low DOC depends on the material, insert nose radius and feedrate. I normally use 0.4mm radius inserts, with 0.8mm radius for roughing, and 0.2mm radius if I need a sharper internal corner. I almost never drop below 4 thou/rev feedrate for finishing.

Some low carbon steels, like EN1A, brass and austenitic stainless steels (303 and 316) seem fine with low DOC. But EN3, for instance, goes to pot and tends to tear with low DOC.

There is no definitive answer and never will be; experimentation is needed. Just because a particular combination works at one point doesn't mean it will work again in the future; there are too many ill defined parameters.

Andrew

Thread: Re-boring Grind Wheels
13/05/2022 08:12:00

If the wheels are that bad from new then bin them. It would make me wonder what else was wrong with the wheel. It's a grinding wheel; so if you try drilling the bore it will equally grind the drill rendering it useless.

For an 8" wheel £11 is very cheap. Personally I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole. I buy my grinding wheels from professional suppliers and reputable makes. At recommended speeds the periphery of a grinding wheel is doing about 60mph. Being hit in the face with a rock doing 60mph just to save a few quid doesn't seem like a good deal to me.

Andrew

Thread: Milling Table Flatness - What is acceptable
11/05/2022 21:08:49
Posted by Pete Rimmer on 11/05/2022 20:14:29:

....Checkig anything else before this basic check is quite pointless.

Exactly. As SOD says making meaningful measurements is much more difficult than it seems. Often what is thought to be measured isn't anything of the sort.

Andrew

Thread: New To CAD? No, but....
11/05/2022 21:04:08

Crosshead CAD - Part 2

Sketch for the cutout for the connecting rod on the XY plane, only two dimensions needed:

crosshead_7.jpg

Extrude cut to depth midplane, so equi-spaced around the XY plane:

crosshead_8.jpg

Mirror everything in the ZX plane:

crosshead_9.jpg

Add hole for the little end pin. Dimension of the hole is in the submenu, no dimensions are needed in the associated sketch, just constrain the point to be on the Z-axis:

crosshead_10.jpg

Sketch on the end face of the part for the piston rod boss. Only diameter dimensions are needed, both circles are constrained to be on the X-axis:

crosshead_11.jpg

Extrude to length:

crosshead_12.jpg

For each feature only one dimension is needed, which ripples through the part if changed. Careful placement of the original sketch avoids the need for many dimensions and construction lines.

Andrew

Edited By Andrew Johnston on 11/05/2022 21:04:46

11/05/2022 20:55:32

Crosshead CAD - Part 1

First sketch on the XY plane, with dimensions:

crosshead_1.jpg

Line at bottom is constrained to be on the X-axis and on the left to be on the Y-axis. Extrude the sketch on the Z-axis:

crosshead_2.jpg

Sketch on the end face of the model for the slidebar cutout, only two dimensions needed:

crosshead_3.jpg

Extrude cut through all:

crosshead_4.jpg

Mirror everything in the XY plane:

crosshead_5.jpg

Mirror everything in the YZ plane:

crosshead_6.jpg

TBC

Thread: .dwg and .dxf files
11/05/2022 20:46:28

When I had parts laser cut the DXF I sent was a 2D drawing with border and dimensions. Why not ask them what they want?

Andrew

Thread: Fusion 360 CAM Milling
11/05/2022 19:43:35

It's always difficult to interpret CAM options across packages, but of those shown I think the relevant ones are scallop, spiral and radial. I take scallop to mean that the package chooses a variable stepover to maintain a constant scallop height, giving a consistant surface roughness. Spiral creates a spiral path around the object, although it is not clear if the spiral constants are fixed. Radial creates a series of radial paths starting from the centre. To some extent what path is chosen depends upon the purpose of the part and aesthetics.

I've used all three methods but mostly tend to use scallop as it gives the most consistent surface finish. I assume the size of cutter is determined by the internal fillet at the bottom? In general it is not a good idea to use a cutter the same size as the fillet as there will be a large engagement with possible chatter and poor finish. I try and use a cutter that is smaller than the fillet or internal corner. Assuming the cutter is carbide I'd be running at 10000rpm and 400/600mm/min feed as per JasonB. One needs to be cautious on feedrate. Remember that, depending upon the cutter geometry, on near flat surfaces only one tooth may be cutting, even on a multi-tooth cutter.

Andrew

Thread: New To CAD? No, but....
11/05/2022 12:09:09

There seem to be some complicated ways of looking at, and creating, parts being mooted?

Considering the crosshead shown earlier one notes that it is has partial symmetry in 3 directions. So I would model it as followings:

Draw 1/8 of the crosshead body. Extrude cut the slot for the slidebar and for the cutout for the connecting rod.

Mirror everything preceding in one plane

Mirror everything preceding in another plane

Mirror everything preceding in the third plane

Add hole for small end pin

Extrude boss for the piston rod - if the hole is flat bottomed it can be extruded as a tube, if drilled extrude a cylinder and add a drilled hole

To my mind a T-nut is one indivisible part with one shape. I'm not sure where an assembly comes into it? I'd make the t-nut by extruding the shape of half the t-nut, then mirror and finally add a hole with appropriate thread.

The advantage of using mirrors is that if changes are needed then only one domension needs to be changed. Of course for multiple dimensions that are always the same the subsidiary dimensions can be pointed to the original dimension and will update automatically. That does mean that you have to remember which dimension was the original.

In my 3D CAD program (Alibre) there are two different areas where constraints apply. One, in sketches where they control features in 2D. Two, in assemblies where they control positioning of parts in 3D.

If anyone doesn't understand my part modelling descriptions above I'll implement them and post screenshots.

Andrew

Thread: Injectors
08/05/2022 18:31:40
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 08/05/2022 18:21:01:
Strange that Imperial fan-boys are nowhere to be seen...

May be they're waitng for **** to rush in where angels fear to tread? teeth 2

Andrew

Thread: New To CAD? No, but....
07/05/2022 10:11:23

Posted by Nigel Graham 2 on 07/05/2022 08:38:36:.

The computer makes 3D images feasible, and in a far faster way, that is all.

It's a mistake to think that 3D CAD is simply a faster way to produce drawings. In the 'good' old days models were often made to determine function and check for interferences. I recall seeing a photo of a tenth scale model of a ship engine room, in Model Engineer I think, to determine pipe runs and lengths. All done on the computer now. Complex curves can also be created which would be difficult, or impossible, to dimension on a 2D drawing. Professionally 2D drawings are less common, 3D models can contain tolerance and machining information for use by CNC machine shops.

Having said the above I still use 2D drawings in the workshop, at least for manual machining, and have been known to use 3D printed models to check functionality:

gear_bracket_fitted.jpg

Ironically the 3D printed gear change mechanism worked a darn sight better than the ones made in metal.

Andrew

06/05/2022 11:28:53

I started with drawing boards and different width pencils, followed by a set of Rotring pens. In the late 80s I started using a DOS based 2D package at home rather than rely on the useless draughtsman and his drawing board at my place of work. Later I moved onto a windows based 2D package. The DOS package was lightning fast, but the windows package was slow and awkward as it had no snaps. In the mid 2000s I moved onto 3D CAD. I must be odd because I had no problems. Of course any package has it's quirks but to me 3D is natural and easy. All parts are inherently 3D, and thinking in 3D should be simple for any engineer. A 3D CAD package simply automates what I do in my head, with the added bonus of easy production of 2D drawings. Assemblies are where 3D CAD really comes into it's own. One can check alignment of features, like holes, across parts and also check for correct operation and spot interferences. I'd rather find all these things out on the computer before I spend time making parts. I expect to make parts once, and I expect them to fit when made.

Note to SoD: A Tiger Moth is not an easy aeroplane to fly, no brakes, little steering and ineffectual ailerons.

Andrew

Edit: For simple things like bolts or studs, and one off fixtures, I just make a quick paper sketch

Edited By Andrew Johnston on 06/05/2022 11:31:52

Thread: Hobby Cnc
04/05/2022 12:07:37
Posted by James Mitchell 3 on 03/05/2022 23:35:56:

...any suggestions?

To make any sensible suggestions we need far more information. For starters:

What maximum size of workpiece do you want to cut?

What sort of machining - 2.5D, 3D or full 4-axis?

How much space is available?

Budget?

What sort of steel, ordinary mild steel, or tool steels and stainless steel?

I have a Tormach 1100 which will happily cut steel, like these brackets in hot rolled steel:

spectacle1.jpg

By hobby standards the Tormach is a fairly large machine at 450kg, and is the same horsepower as my Bridgeport. That not withstanding I find the Tormach works better running small cutters at high spindle speeds rather than running large cutters at slower speeds. A high maximum spindle speed is important, 5100rpm on the Tormach. Even that is a bit slow for really small cutters. I have added a high speed spindle for use with small cutters, like this 1mm ballnose cutter, running at 24000rpm:

governor bevel gear cnc.jpg

Andrew

Thread: making spindle bearings
02/05/2022 10:34:40
Posted by jamie creighton 1 on 02/05/2022 10:19:27:

...whats the best way forward please?

Not possible to say without knowing a number for the tolerance you want to achieve.

Andrew

Thread: What type of Collet are these please?
30/04/2022 21:39:00
Posted by B Tulley on 30/04/2022 16:17:02:

...about half a dozen, ranging from 3/16" up to 1"...

Thanks, I've got a pretty good range of imperial round collets, but am looking for smaller hexagon and square. Although I sold my 3/4" collets I kept what seems to be a shop made adaptor so one can use 3/4" collets in a 1-1/4" machine.

As to the sizing there is nothing on the collet that says it is for a 3/4" or 1-1/4" machine. But as Baz says it simply relates to the largest round bar that can be accomodated. So the larger collets can't be for a 3/4" machine. It would be useful to see a 1" capacity collet with sizes. I can then compare with one of my collets.

Andrew

30/04/2022 15:34:14
Posted by B Tulley on 30/04/2022 15:11:15:

...does this mean they are only really of use on a Britan...

Most likely yes; superficially the collets look like the DIN6343 standard, but don't match any of the standard sizes. At least that is the case for my collets for the 1-1/4" Britan.

If indeed they are for the Britan they have some value. The Britan is useless without collets and the 3/4" version seems to be rarer than the 1-1/4" version. What shapes/sizes are available?

Andrew

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