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Thread: Stuart Twin Victoria (Princess Royal) Mill Engine
24/09/2021 12:34:26

Hi Doc, didn't you share in the PTFE impregnated yarn I bought? There were three of us - I was sure you were one.

If so make the groove a little wider than the nominal width of the material and a little shallower - around 5 thou or so in both cases.

The piston should be a good 3-4 thou down on diameter so there is no metal to metal drag.

I use a sharp (new blade) scalpel to cut the packing with a scarf joint across the width not the thickness. The extra width allows for a little compression when fitting - once in the bore it will find it's own level and give a very good seal with extremely low friction.

When fitting the piston to the bore make sure there are no surplus threads from the packing running down the side of the piston.

Not disagreeing with those who prefer to use o rings but groove dimensions are much more relaxed and friction a lot less.


23/09/2021 09:06:18

Hi Doc, yes all the oilers on my engines are bespoke - some just simple open top cups others to represent full size with glasses etc. Easy enough to make in a variety of forms. As Jason says your engine represents a much larger engine than that in your photo so the oilers should be in keeping.

Oiling of your engine cylinders would more likely be by forced lubrication in full size of a similar engine. I found over the years - running on air - that putting a good slug of steam oil into the airline entry will get carried around and coat all internal surfaces more than adequately enough so cylinder oilers can at times be simple 'dummies'

If you can get hold of a copy of the Textile Mill Engine by Geo Watkins you'll see all sorts of examples.


19/09/2021 18:43:19

Nice result Doc - a credit to your appoachyes

Re your comment on the Corliss - detail on the oiling system starts here

BTW a good material for making the glass of cylindrical oilers is the crystal clear tubes that protect artists paint brushes.


Just found these pics from the Waller build that may be of use




Edited By Ramon Wilson on 19/09/2021 18:50:52

Thread: How do you make this
17/09/2021 18:18:48

Hi Bob, if you take a look here you can see how I aproached the same problem on the Stuart D10 rebuild I did.

I made the two eccentrics separately which gives independent movement rather than a double eccentric set forever as machined.

By making the sliding plate and using the faceplate the job becomes very easy.

Hope that helps - Tug

Thread: Tap Extractor
15/09/2021 14:30:22


A carbide drill is another possibility with everything held really rigid. I had one to hand and used it for the same purpose on the Marine Engine build earlier in the year with success but a hollow cutter is just as good if a lot slower. I advised left had as it has a natural tendency to loosen the tap 'if you are lucky' but it is not essential. Just cut the teeth with as deep a gullet as possible and don't let the gullets crowd with swarf. Little and often, brushing the swarf out of the teeth as you progress - again the part needs to be in a rigid set up, not done freehand,

With care you will be able to reclaim your part with little indication of doingg so.

Good luck with it - Tug

15/09/2021 08:00:11

You may get lucky with trying to move it by other means but short of spark errosion it's definitely best to make a hollow cutter - 7 Ba clear inner and about a 1mm wall section. Cut the teeth with a file for left hand direction. Harden but dont temper. Slow's the word with constant swarf removal from the teeth. Slow process but it works (believe me!!). Once out, clean hole with next size drill and turn cast iron plug to suit, loctite in place and carry on as before.

Good luck for an efficient recovery


Thread: Stuart Twin Victoria (Princess Royal) Mill Engine
13/09/2021 16:09:49

Reading your last post through, I'd be inclined, as said, to set the spindle to zero on the boss hole. Move the R/T either a known angular amount or by eye - if the latter make a note of the setting on the dial. Take a cut either side of centre to do opposing faces to the same setting each side. Rotate table known amount or to the same setting as previous. Repeat cutting to same setting to do the other two faces.

Carefully file main and end radii using a filing button if accuracy is required

You could still use the R/T to do the main radius (or indeed the ends) but as you say run the risk of over shooting - an easy thing to do on an R/T


Hope that's of use too



Edited By Ramon Wilson on 13/09/2021 16:12:01

13/09/2021 15:54:20

Haven't checked in for a while Doc - good to see more progress yes

Might be a bit late in the day now but theres a much simpler method of making the gland bosses. As much as I enjoy using a rotary table this is one of those instances when it really isn't neccesary.

Have a look here post 472 onwards for a much easier way. They won't neccessarily match the casting but then they rarely do in full size situations but they do all come out identical within the remit of hole spacing and filing buttons.


Regards - Ramon

Edited By Ramon Wilson on 13/09/2021 15:58:09

Thread: General Aeromodelling Discussion
11/09/2021 14:24:55

Thanks Keith and Ron,

Yep it's never the same once that first coat of castor goes on Keith sad. I do have a good cleaning regime though that should keep it looking fair for a while.

The covering Ron, is traditional heavyweight Jap tissue sadly no longer available. As you say though once it goes on all that intense work of previous weeks is quickly hidden. I would prefer to paint all over but that does bring the weight up considerably - keeping it clear doped helps with that as well as having a nice 'traditional' effect.

Although I don't compete any more this model design is from what is termed the 'Classic' period - models that were designed/published between Dec '58 (I think) and Dec 69. Well it was in my time but has been extended to Dec 1979 to encourage more input. Some of the models designed between 69 and 79 are certainly classics in their own right if not quite in keeping with the original period to my mind.

Any one else build and fly control line on here? Be good to hear from you if so

Regards - Tug

10/09/2021 08:36:26

Morning guys,

I finally finished one of those airframes - thought you might like to see it.


It's covered in jap tissue and clear doped with a tint of red in the dope. The fuse is painted with aerosol - 'CanBrush' a very hard wearing and easy to spay paint. The colour looks white in the image but is actually a nice cream.

Weight (always important) is slightly heavier than I would like but is 44.3 ozs all up. Power is a Stalker 40 glow motor and if the weather's is okay first flights will be on Sunday.


PS There's a couple more pics in my albums if you are interested

Thread: Cast iron cylinders
07/09/2021 11:51:37


My first engine was a ST Twin Vic with cast iron pistons - after a lay up between it's first and second displays it was siezed solid. A strip down revealed rust was the culprit but it had not affected the bore surface. Fitted bronze pistons with PTFE impregnated yarn packing and never ever had any further issues. Ran like that on steam then air for many years before parting with it. All other engines built since have the same set up

That's not to dispute Andrew as cast on cast is a good wearing combination but cast on cast with condensation present in much smaller bores isn't a good idea in my thoughts.

Brass would be okay but bronze would be better

Hope that helps - Tug

Thread: Age and Realisation
07/09/2021 11:39:57

Thanks Bernard - sorted yes

06/09/2021 22:21:03

Hi guys,

I'm pleased to say both of the above have now been sold.

I managed to delete the Bentley from the 'For Sale' ads a few days ago but cannot seem to find a way tonight to do the same for the Jung radial.

It's in no ones interest to keep it there so if anyone has any ideas how to do this it would be appreciated

Regards - Tug

Thread: Bentley Rotary - Rust Prevention
25/08/2021 13:07:30

Okay David no probs yes

25/08/2021 09:25:49

Hello David,

Sorry, I can see it's a bit confusing. It referred to another thread in the Tea Room section - 'Age and Realisation'

Either a PM or posting here will get a response but currently a sale has been agreed with the first person to make an offer.

If it's technical help then it's been a while since working on it but I'll do my best to help

Regards - Ramon (Tug)

Thread: Age and Realisation
24/08/2021 22:14:31

Hi guys, thanks for the comments and to all those who have looked in.

First off I must say that I recieved a firm offer first thing this morning which I was happy to accept. Discussion on that is ongoing and I see no reason why that should not happen but if it doesn't then I'll let people know.


Second off is something I must stress - getting old I may be but I do not want to leave anyone with the impression that I am close to some kind of premature end. Yes Ady it is catching up with me but I'm not going under quite yet wink

My life has been blessed with making models - a passion that began with Meccano aged four - through model aircraft and into model engineering with several tangential paths along the way. I'm not fed up with it per se just a general tireness of it on a day to day basis.

Disposing of these two projects is the first step in a planned 'retirement' from active modelling and moving toward something more passive in my eighties. I've ayear or two to go yet but once the marine engine is done then it's time to really hang the overall on the door - the more sedate plastic modelling has an attraction and that 'Ship Book' pile has grown since Doc G first mentioned it on here - something awaiting those armchair moments rather than standing in front of milll or lathe.

Regards and again my thanks - Tug

Edited By Ramon Wilson on 24/08/2021 22:15:39

Thread: THE NUMBER 9 !
24/08/2021 15:35:43

Ah! you'd need a calclator to turn that into real timelaugh

Nice one Noel


Thread: Age and Realisation
24/08/2021 08:33:59

Morning guys, thanks for the kind comments.

Yes Emgee, the hours spent were countless over many years span but all very pleasurable and rewarding however it is time to be realistic - and as you say Martin 'pushed for time' sums it up perfectly.

Sorry to disappoint Bernie - hope you are well.

Regards - Tug

23/08/2021 22:51:14

Hello Guys,

As I approach my eighties I find I have less and less desire to machine compared to the passion it once was. Though unlikely for the most part there are still some projects that I would like to see achieved but, there are two that most definitely won't be.

One is the Lew Blackmore Bentley BR2 nine cylinder rotary engine started so long ago and the other a more recent nine cylinder radial engine to the Volker Jung design.

Much work has been done on the major parts of the Bentley

parts pics (1).jpg

Further images of individual parts I have posted in my albums. There is still much enjoyable machining to do however.

Work has been carried out using the drawings from the original article in ME, the errata published by Prof. Chaddock and from Lew Blackmores book plus amendments of my own to errors found in all (including the errata!)

The standard of work should be able to be gauged from the images. The bearings are all commercial save the thrust race which is home made from EN40b and professionally nitride heat treated. Gears are also commercial. There is also stainless material for the valves, the correct clock spring for the volute valve springs and ceramic tubing for the plugs. All of the above has been carefully stored and is in excellent condition.

All the tooling, jigs and fixtures made for are also with it.

The Jung radial engine has the full set of drawings from Modelltechnic


and a collection of roughed out aluminium parts and materials including the called for steel for the crankshaft. and cam roller and enough cast iron for six of the nine liners. There is also a wire eroded (cut) internal bronze gear along with two commercial gears. The only head start is the roughing of the parts. All aluminium is HE30 (6082)

If anyone has an interest in taking either of these projects on for themselves I have placed them in the For Sale section. As I have no idea what to ask however so am open to offers from anyone with a desire to pick up where I've left off.

If anyone is interested then a PM in the first instance will set things in motion

Regards - Tug

Thread: Clinging to the Past
19/08/2021 11:22:46
Posted by Kiwi Bloke on 19/08/2021 10:30:50:

SOD's post in the 'Converting Fractions to Decimals' thread contained "The history of engineering shows new techniques always win and it's a bad mistake to cling to the past. Discuss!" So I thought I would. It warrants its own thread.


Change for change's sake is foolish. (My Italics)

Over to you...


Well Kiwi I couldn't agree more but progress is always based on what's gone before so it's a constantly moving stream.

But, and it's a big but from my perspective - for the most part those who persue, or intend to persue, 'model engineering' as a hobby usually have an 'active' intention rather than to sit in an armchair and pontificate.

For me my 'model engineering' is very much about making something of the past with past skills. That is based on beginning as a total amateur - re-training and then earning a living from employment as a machinist (note the term). This has stood me well over many years and I can still produce what I desire to make, with resonable effect, from basic hand and machining skills learn that which to today's 'machinist' might expect only be produced on modern computer assisted machines.

I don't expect anyone to live in the past with me but I am happy to pass on anything I have learnt over the years to anyone who has the desire to do likewise. That does not mean no one should consider the modern approach but I'd hazard a good guess there are far more of the few that do take an active interest who want to produce a simple oscillator or a Stuart model than anything esoteric requiring modern technology.

I've said it before - I'm a dino-sore (I know, sore being the operative word) but what is model engineering about if it isn't making something cohesive. Does one tell someone 'this' or 'there' is an easy way to go about a job based on skills from the past or do you tell them they need to learn CAD and purchase CNC kit before they make that first cut???

As always it's choice, down to the individual to assess, they alone to choose. But, to me advice should always be given based on fact and experience and not just what's thought might be the way to go.

So yes, I will cling to my past, willing to help anyone who may benefit - the future I leave well alone for others to persue


Regards - Tug



Edited By Ramon Wilson on 19/08/2021 11:24:58

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