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Thread: Myford 254V Lathe.
23/03/2020 19:36:44

I have been in touch with these chaps previously regarding the 254 but unfortunately, at that time at least, they were restricting their activities to the 7 series machines that they were most familiar with.


23/03/2020 18:49:59

img_20200323_184050.jpgI have uploaded photos of the headstock assy and the associated parts list to my album on here. Looking on my phone it looks reasonably clear. I could email images to you if you give me an email address.



23/03/2020 09:03:46

Have you got a copy of the manual? I have a 254 V plus and a manual. It doesn't tell you how to dismantle it but there are useful exploded diagrams. Let me know if you want scans of relevant pages.


Thread: Left handed lathe.
01/02/2020 14:21:03

If you look here...


you will see President Tito of the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia using what is clearly a left handed Myford Lathe.....

I spotted this a few year ago when visiting Brijuni, Tito's summer residence. This photo is a part of a large photographic archive displayed on the island. The back to front lathe caught my eye, but on closer inspection I realised that in the photo he is wearing his watch on the wrong wrist, so I concluded that this photo is in fact printed back to front and the left handed Myford a mirage!

I helpfully pointed this out to the guide who was very sceptical until I was able to show that in every other photo where his watch was visible, he wore it on the other wrist. Strangely the guide did not seem too pleased that I had pointed this out and I was ushered out of the room. Clearly the message didn't get through to the web site designer.


Thread: Myford 254 thread dial indicator
24/11/2019 08:36:54


I have an imperial 254 in Cheshire if you want a look.


Thread: ww2 jeeps
23/10/2019 08:15:51

Hi Jerry and welcome to the forum.

With all the rain we are getting these days I suspect there might be a queue of people wanting to buy that if you are planning on selling it! Is it also known as a Seep?


Thread: EN40 nitrided repair
17/09/2019 17:05:56

Lots of good stuff in these replies.

I think the best solution may be to scrap the faulty levers and go back around the casting loop. If we make new waxes with the old tooling, we can correct the waxes by hand before casting in EN40, then machine and nitride as usual.


16/09/2019 06:28:22

Thanks for all those thoughts, I think finding the specialist welder and agreeing the plan with him sounds like an essential first step.


15/09/2019 11:48:49

We have some cam levers lost wax cast in EN40 then machined and subsequently selectively (at least according to the drawing) nitrided. The tappet pad it turns out is in the wrong position so we could do with building this up with weld and the re-profiling and re-hardening.

Does anyone have any words of wisdom on how to go about this?



Thread: Lathe - dead centre wont reach the workpiece
10/08/2019 08:27:34

John Stevenson’s post briefly mentions something that I have observed having been through the exercise of replacing my Student with an imported machine.

I think there was a huge amount of development based on testing and real life operating experience built into the design of all those old British (and probably EU and US) machines. The imported machines seemingly have all the right bits in all the right places, but they often do not seem to have spotted or understood the subtleties of the designs they are copying that make machines really work.

I am not sure either that the current supply chain is going to result in these subtleties being identified and incorporated in imported machines over time.

having said that, model engineering I think is largely about doing unlikely things with inappropriate equipment and this just becomes one additional factor to challenge your ingenuity. Where there is a will, the model engineer will find a way.


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Thread: What Did You Do Today 2019
28/07/2019 22:49:00

I used my bargain ALDI endoscope to keep an eye on drilling the seal bypass ports in a brake master cylinder I have been making. I knew it would come in handy one day!


Thread: Myford 254s tooling
26/07/2019 11:34:46


Mine has a QCTP that I am pretty sure came with the machine, new from Myford. The slot in the standard holders measures 0.555” or thereabouts.

I use tipped tools almost exclusively, and for use on my 254, I have machined a number of them down to fit the QCTP.


Thread: Rounded Torx Screw Removal
16/07/2019 08:00:18

Look up the thread “saving a tool holder” on here to see another way of doing it.


Thread: Belt sander recommendations
17/06/2019 06:37:20

I have a device currently marketed by Multitool Products which is a bolt-on to a conventional bench grinder. I have had this for donkey’s years and it continues to give excellent service. Have a look at


Thread: What Did You Do Today 2019
21/05/2019 17:49:36

Set about modifying a Jag rev counter for the Morgan. I removed the defunct clock from the bottom of the old instrument and made a “medallion” with the JAP logo on the CNC machine to go in its place.



Thread: D1-3 spindle nose adaptor
18/05/2019 11:37:24


This is then used first of all to machine the eccentric cam, then whilst still in the jog, the cam is trasferred to the milling machine for all the subsequent operations....the cut out to clear the cam lock pin, the 45 degree face and the hole for the stop bolt detent. Note that getting these features in the right orientation to each other is important so I marked up the jig to show this and also made sure that the hexagon was aligned consistently with the other features. I aligned the hexagon anticipating leaving off the detent feature and needed a way to indicate that the cam was disengaged.


Here is a cam ready for de-burring.

Once de-burred the chucking piece can be machined off and everything fitted together for testing. I added a centre pop on the end of each cams hexagon indicating the position when the cam was fully released.

The first picture in the previous post shows the finished item ready to go - maybe I will add the detent, but for now I have to get on with some other things so that will wait for another day.

Thanks to Murray for kicking this all off - it is a great idea.


18/05/2019 11:26:47

Having just bought a rotary table with a controller attached, the idea of being able to move chucks direct from the lather to the rotary table appealed. I read this post and exchanged notes with Murray and set to. My design is based on the standard but differs from Murray's in that my rotary table only has three slots which makes things easier, I also put hexagon heads on the cams but stayed closer to the standard stop bolt orientation to keep the height of the adaptor to a minimum. I did not bother making the spring loaded stop bolt arrangement but could add this later I suppose.


The standard is not so easy to use as it gives design detail for the full range of cam lock spindles but you can puzzle it out.

I came across another post questioning the design of the cams themselves so I thought it might be useful if I shared my understanding and the method of making them.

The first question was about the cam profile and the angle "v" on the standard. I am on the same page as Murray here and believe that the cam profile is in fact a circle - with a bit of geometry you can work out that for the D1-3 cam the diameter of the cam portion is 0.677" and it is eccentric to the body of the cam by 0.031". The angle "v" on the drawing essentially shows that the required cam action occurs over this angle, the dimensions "d" and "e" tell you the extent of the cam action. having made them to this scheme I can confirm that it all works fine.

When it comes to making them I started with three blanks featuring a chucking piece on the inboard end of each blank. The outboard end is extended versus the standard to take the hexagon rather then the square hole as specified.


I have a smallish 3 jaw chuck with a large hexagon shaped lump on the back in place of a back plate - I use this in the milling machine to put the hexagons on.

Next I made up a little jig block that in based on a square but has a hole for the chucking piece through it offset by the required 0.031" eccentricity. It also has a register at the same eccentricity to allow it to be held in the 3 jaw to turn the eccentric cam. I also added flats on the block at 45 degrees to facilitate the later machining of the 45 degree feature.

Let me just add a photo of that....

Thread: Fork and blade conrods
28/03/2019 08:31:40

Thanks for your thoughts.

I am looking specifically at pre war JAP engines (and Harley Davidson practice up to the current day) where a built up crank avoids the need for conrods with split big ends. I am concluding that unless the original design makes specific provision for oiling based on the design and direction of rotation of the con rods, then it probably doesn’t matter.

Those who have a preference maintain that the fork rod (which is rather more asymmetric than that shown in the drawing in the original post) contributes to the oiling of the blade rod big end bearing by scooping oil laden air from the crank case that then finds its way to the bearing. In the case of JAP engines the blade rod runs, or rather rocks, on a bronze bush on the outside of the hardened steel bearing shell of the fork rod. Whilst there may be some truth in this, I am not sure that this can have been considered a principal/critical source of lubrication for the bearing.


26/03/2019 23:07:16

Various V twin engines use fork and blade style conrods.


Without worrying about the pros and cons of this style of conrod, does anyone know of a rationale that links the orientation of the rods with the direction of rotation of the engine? There are proponents for both solutions, but is this just custom and practice, or is there an engineering rationale to support one solution or the other?


Thread: Silver soldering a blind 'mortise and tenon' joint.
05/03/2019 10:13:01

In the original post Robin mentions “tinning” with silver solder. I would be interested to hear Keith’s (CUP Alloys) view on whether this is a viable technique.

In Morgan Three Wheeler land, recovery of used chassis lugs that have been previously silver soldered on to chassis tubes is achieved by machining the tube out of the lug. Removing the lugs with heat is not recommended for fear of “de-zincification” leaving the steel lugs brittle and prone to cracking.

If this is real, then tinning and reheating silver soldered components to sweat them together sounds like it might have the same effect? I would be grateful for any clarification.



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