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Thread: Proxxon FET - Safe working and accessories
02/12/2021 15:33:31

I've considered these guillotines before, as well as the Vevor ones which aren't currently in stock.

The only thing that puts me off is the measurent only in cm's. The ideal 5058, has mm's as well which would be really useful for me.

02/12/2021 09:00:54
Posted by Iain Downs on 02/12/2021 08:30:26:

Not sure if this isn't a red herring, but a few (12?) years ago I bought a book guillotine (probably from eBay - I might be able to find out if of use). That's chomped through 4000 paperbacks since.

From memory, it cost about £200. When I was looking for a device to cut the spines off my books (for scanning, but let's not get into book abuse, please!) I looked into saws vs guillotine. The saws were effective, but slower, produced a less clean edge and, more important for me a LOT of dust.

I'm not sure how accurate you need or this would be - with the books there was a tendency to pull the lower layers in resulting in a slightly skewed cut. This may not happen with board.

If you are near west north yorkshire, I@d be happy for you to experiment with my guillotine to see if it would work.

Iain

Thanks for the offer.

Im just over the border in South Scotland. I will maybe avoid a table saw for now and try and source a more suitable guillotine.

02/12/2021 08:59:12
Posted by Bill Phinn on 02/12/2021 01:29:56:

Being the owner of several Proxxon items, including an MF70, I'd go one step further than John and say, even without seeing it in action, that their 200W two- to three-inch-diameter-bladed table saw will almost certainly produce an inferior result when cutting 3mm grey board to what can be achieved with a common-or-garden 1500W 10-inch-bladed sliding mitre saw like mine.

There is no small or cheap solution to cutting thick grey board or mill board cleanly, unfortunately, though substantial cast iron board choppers are sometimes still available second hand, often for significantly less money than the Proxxon saw's list price.

Would you mind casting your eye over the the Ideal 1058 guillotine. It's a paper guillotine but seen it mentioned for geyboard. It's over £500, so I'd expect it to cut 2-4m greyboard well.

01/12/2021 21:03:38

Thanks for taking the time to show me that. Really appreciate it.

Do you think the proxxon table saw with 50mmx1mm tungsten blade would give me much cleaner cuts than a mitre saw, seeing as it's for precise small model work? Proxxon suggest the tungsten blade will work, but I have no idea how smooth and clean it's going to be. The board structure won't be exposed, but the fluff in the photos you provided is not the clean level of cut I'd want. Shame proxxon couldn't cut a piece with one of their machines and show me before I start spending.

01/12/2021 19:12:54
Posted by Bill Phinn on 01/12/2021 18:46:46:

Regardless of what kind of blade you use, if you're going to use a table/circular/mitre saw to cut grey board, you need to be prepared for the cut edges to be quite rough. These will require sanding smooth or cutting again in a rotary or mat cutter if you want to use the pieces to make neat boxes out of.

I've made plenty of Solander and drop-back boxes from grey and mill board, but rarely needed to bevel the edges of boards. When bevelling of binding board is required I happily make do with a sanding block or block plane.

Thanks for the advice. How rough are we talking? Presumably the cut board keeps it integral 45/90 degree cuts?

Do suggest anything forerfecr 90 degree cuts instead of this table saw? Tried knives and a mount cutter with rail but still lacking precision.

01/12/2021 18:13:03

Just as an introduction before my question - I have recently started making portfolio boxes for artists. I use greyboard for the structure then cover in book cloth. For cutting greyboard, I was using a steel ruler and olfa knife but find it not precise enough. The two options for greyboard cutting are Victorian board cutters or a heavy duty guillotine. The first is hard to acquire, and both are large and expensive.

I came across the Proxxon FET table saw, and contacted suppliers and manufacturers who told me it would be suitable with the right blade for cutting greyboard.

My main questions are regarding safety and additional accessories I may need.

- Is it essential to get a sled for smaller work? Some pieces I will cut will be to 3cm height and 10cm long.

- The material is about 3mm thick, and when laying flat to cut, I will require the blade to be 45 degrees to achieve bevelled edges. In this case, I take it a small sled wouldn't be possible?

- I have watched some videos about saw safety, but is there any advice for cutting a thin lighter material? I plan to cut down from a3 sheet size of possible, then cut the smaller pieces I need.

Any suggestions of accessories welcome also.

Thanks, Rob

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