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Thread: Warco VMC or GH Universal
14/06/2021 21:27:36
Posted by old mart on 13/06/2021 18:07:43:

A 5" vise would be the best choice, 6" is more for Bridgeport size machines.

At the museum, we have a choice of an ARC 5", 125mm vise for the larger jobs, or 100mm Bison which get used most frequently. Both mills are of similar size to your new Warco.

If I was looking for a good value vise, I would give the ARC 130-040-03500 one top priority, it is 100mm jaws opening 122mm. Their next size up in this type is a very big jump.

Edited By old mart on 13/06/2021 18:15:19

Edited By old mart on 13/06/2021 18:23:12

i opted for a 5” vice in the end, comes with a swivel base that I doubt I’ll use but it’s there if needed.

13/06/2021 10:17:05

Collected the mill teamster day and it now installed in the workshop.

Its one heavy beast.ee7dbfd3-866d-4fe7-ba4f-b14f64247f2a.jpeg

08/06/2021 21:14:53

Well if have bought a VMC with 3 axis DRO power traverse. I will pick it up on Sunday.
Thinking of a 5” vice, as I think a 6” maybe a bit big.


30/05/2021 10:06:38
Posted by John Hinkley on 28/05/2021 17:29:14:

I have a biased view, I suppose, as the owner of a VMC machine. I can see where Bill is coming from when he says about the axis travel on the GH universal being superior, but I have to wonder how often you would need to use all that airspace. Only you can answer that one For myself, I have found the VMC can do all I ask of it - and more. Over my 6 year's ownership, I've added a DRO on the three axes, a digital readout on the quill feed and power feed to the X-axis (brilliant addition, by the way) and fitted an uprated 3-phase motor and associated VFD . The latter I wouldn't be without both, for ease of use and the improved finish it affords. I specifically didn't want a geared head machine when I ordered mine, mainly due to the perceived noise concerns. I'd previously had a two-speed bench mill which munched its way through gears like there was no tomorrow. But that's a personal choice, again. The VMC appears to have a much beefier column that the GH as far as I can tell from the pictures, so that would sway my choice in itself.

I see that both are out of stock at the moment, so you've got time to make up your mind. A visit to the showroom might help with your decision as well. You've no profile so I can't tell whether you are close enough to warrant a visit or not.

As has been said so many times before when these "choices" threads come up, it's horses for courses- what do you want to do with it - will it fit your workshop - will I need something bigger as soon as I get it? At the end of the day, it's your money and your choice. If it was me, I'd choose the VMC again. Its only drawback that I've found so far is the sometimes limited Y-axis travel - but even then, some adventurous work holding can usually provide a solution.

Whatever you eventually buy, have fun with it an enjoy it for a very long time.


Thanks for the detailed reply. I like you think the VMC looks beefier, I note your comments on noise. A quick search confirms a few comments on th GH being noisy. It looks like a VMC it is, just leaves R8 it MT.

Thanks to all for the replies. Andy

28/05/2021 13:08:59

I did have a look but couldnt find much in the way of the pros and cons of both.


28/05/2021 11:44:27

I currently have a Warco WM14, it does most of what i need but at times im close to its limitations.

I am thinking of a Warco VMC or GH universal, whats the for and against for both.

I am sure i have read the GH is noisy due to the gear drive.

Thanks in advance, Andy

Thread: Squareness gauge
27/01/2021 15:46:59

€3500 plus carriage and another €58 for a cardboard storage box. Ouch

26/01/2021 20:28:18
Posted by old mart on 26/01/2021 18:40:22:

The Kunz Square Check 350 looks like a winner, but how much will it cost?

I’m thinking £2000 ish

26/01/2021 16:39:14
Posted by DC31k on 26/01/2021 16:17:31:
Posted by old mart on 26/01/2021 15:44:10: could be checked at the desired top and bottom heights and adjusted to be true at those points.

You are correct, providing that squareness is needed to be checked in only one place. On YT, both OxTools and Stefan Gotteswinter have shown versions that do this.

On the other hand, if you need to sweep from top to bottom checking squareness, then the height gauge may not be good enough.

I have just sent an email to Kunz, looks just the job. Thanks

26/01/2021 14:42:05

Work related so sorry. The object in the photo is called an Indi Square and we use it to check the squareness of a part relative to its mounting surface.

I need another one and contacting tool suppliers they have both offered height gauge but i doubt it will be that accurate. We calibrate the Indi square to 2 tenths over it 12" travel. Any ideas anyone,


Thread: Bench grinder wheel wobble
22/07/2020 20:55:10

I do like the idea Harold Halls,

Thanks Micky T

21/07/2020 21:00:33

I’ve just turned up a 3” x 1/2” disc. Fitted on the grinder with a 8mm wide diamond wheel and without frying it only runs out about 10 thou.

Thanks for the replies

20/07/2020 20:20:00

I’ve got a good quality 8” bench grinder that I can swap grinding wheels for polishing mops and put the grinding wheel back on and it runs true.

My old 6” Aldi special is a different story. I fancy putting a CBN and diamond wheel on it. The supplied washers seem part of the problem, has anyone managed to method to get the wheels to run true.


Thread: What geen grinding wheels for tools
05/07/2020 10:26:58

Looking at buying a 6” diamond wheel, what’s most versatile. A bevel wheel or flat.


Thread: What fuses Warco lathe and Chester mill
25/06/2020 18:57:24

I emailed both Warco and Chester. Chester have confirmed 10amp in both fuse holders. I have not heard back from Warco but will update when I do.

Thanks all

24/06/2020 20:24:40
Posted by Martin W on 24/06/2020 19:52:06:


I can confirm Nigel's post that the WM14 manual states that it is 8A. However I would be very surprised if this is a slow blow fuse as they require a significant current surge before they rupture, I would expect that it should be a fast blow fuse so that the semiconductors in the speed control unit suffer the minimum stress before the fuse ruptures. That said I will check what is fitted to my mill as it is still the original fuse that the machine came with to confirm or otherwise which it is.



24/06/2020 19:10:53

Thanks for your replies. You’ve now got me thinking, the numbers / letters on the fuse on the control side in the mill looks like it starts with a T. Meaning time delay.


24/06/2020 18:36:39

Both machines have 2 fuses on the control panel. I thought I may get an answer on here before I contact them tomorrow. Also if they are like me at work, I only quote our part number for a bought in item.


24/06/2020 18:01:48

Can someone tell me the correct fuses for a Warco wm14 mill and a Chester DB8 lathe. I bought both second hand and want to get some spare fuses, and can’t see anything in the manual. And can’t read for certain what’s on the fuses in both machines.

Thanks in advance Andy

Thread: milling machine which one ?
17/06/2020 19:38:02

I’ve finally put my hand in my pocket and bought a Warco WM14. A few bits and bobs to get together and Start making swarf 



Edited By Andy Shepherdson on 17/06/2020 19:39:39

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