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Member postings for Frank Gorse

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Thread: wire bender
07/09/2019 15:53:40

Duncan,in theory it should be the aluminium being attacked by the copper as copper is much higher up the galvanic hierarchy than aluminium - ally boats,particularly in tropical seawater,suffer terrible damage if painted with anti- fouling containing copper. Perhaps there’s something else going on there.?

Thread: Centec 2A riser block
14/08/2019 17:22:35

Gary has given us the length as 457mm and heights as 114 or127 overall. I’d been assuming they were made from 100x100 which is easy to find but obviously not so ideal mechanically. Next problem for anyone thinking of batch production is the different sizes of dovetail-the overarm bracket on mine would be an extremely tight fit on the v.head,for example. Would it matter if the ‘female’ dovetails were cut a few thou on the large side and a thin gib strip made to take up any difference,we’re only clamping something in place after all,not like the dovetail s on the table. In fact,given that it’s made of aluminium,perhaps a strip of steel or brass would be a good thing.

14/08/2019 15:49:08

Thanks for that Gary,very kind. Frank

13/08/2019 22:33:27

Bill,if you look up “centec raising block” on this site you’ll find a recent discussion about this. A 2b isn’t quite long enough to make the long block so the 2a certainly can’t and there’s no point in having the short block( unless you’re willing to give up the horizontal facility) because of the weight of the vert. head. Still trying to organise getting mine made,I’ll send you a pm tomorrow. Frank

Thread: Guess the Chemical?
28/07/2019 10:18:24

I believe it’s also called di-hydrogen monoxide which sounds very nasty.

Thread: Aldi bargain laser level
17/07/2019 20:09:17

What this thread is short of is a bit of pedantry so may I point out that it’s only an acronym if the letters form a word,such as UNESCO,RADAR etc. Otherwise it’s just a TFLA (three or four letter abbreviation) You’re welcome.

15/07/2019 21:47:33

Oh dear,

I am well aware that the three point fix by hand bearing compass was,and probably still is,the basic position fixing technique in traditional coastal navigation. But when I did the course at the local tech in 1980-something we also covered running fixes,doubling the angle off the bow,and other arcane stuff I can’t remember now. I’m not sure whether hsa’s were mentioned,probably not.

However,in ’Yachtmaster’ by Langley-Price and Ouvry,published by Adlard Coles,covering the RYA syllabus we read:

“If the sextant is turned so that it is held horizontally,it can be used to measure the angle subtended at the observer between two shore objects. A distance off is not obtained...........but a position circle can be plotted. Two such circles can be obtained from three landmarks,where they intersect is the fix.”

15/07/2019 18:56:03

Quite horizontal angle needs a compass bearing to give position. Two horizontal sextant angles on three objects gives a fix where the two arcs overlap and both were still in the textbooks for RYA yachtmaster not that long ago but I’ve never tried either.and shouldn’t want to have to when it really mattered.

There used to be tables of ‘dipping distances’ in Reeds (along with useful things like emergency childbirth) and I still have a copy somewhere.

Fully agree about GPS though!

15/07/2019 10:12:45

Neil,that sounds like a pelorus,a simple horizontal protractor with a sight that is probably still fitted on ships today. Anything which relies on a spirit level is of limited use at sea but the horizontal angle between two known points will give you ‘distance off’,add a third point and you have a position fix. The same thing can be done with a sextant used on its side. No trig required,just a couple of lines on the chart but as you say you do need to be able to see the coast.

Thread: Source of plastic rod
03/07/2019 15:24:50

Or google “elforin”,sorry,don’t know how to do link.

Thread: Centec raising block
24/06/2019 10:13:23

Just to confuse things a little further,my 2b is about 63.5” with the vertical head on. Haven’t got the raising block yet but that will increase it by about 3.5”(made from 4x4 aluminium). My cabinet base is the steel version so that may account for the difference. Being quite tall I’ve stood my machine on timber bearers to bring it up to a more comfortable working height.

Thread: Use a router for a mortice lock
31/05/2019 15:18:40

Not sure whether you’re talking about the mortice or just the shallow recess for the plate. As Jason says you’ll need to find a long bit and a decent router to do the mortice. Doing it by hand needs proper tools and if you had those you wouldn’t be asking the question. One piece of advice though, never “climb mill” with a router.

Thread: Rudder Bushes on Boat
18/05/2019 11:35:06

Do have a look at Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene. I used it for a job on our ‘Westerly Something’. It’s even less affected by moisture than delrin,has similar frictional properties to ptfe and is very hard wearing. It’s also quite cheap.

15/05/2019 06:44:06

Delrin,or acetal which is similar but not the same,has far less water absorption/swelling problems than nylon and has long been used for such things. Or try UHMWPE,even less absorbent and the frictional properties of teflon but slightly more trouble to machine than delrin.

Direct Plastics’ website has lots of info and they give a good service-usual disclaimer.

Thread: Centec,again
03/05/2019 10:51:22

I didn’t exactly say I’d hammered them in! I was trying to take out the huge amount of endfloat on the existing bearings. The adjusting nuts on the spindle had no effect so I made a clamping plate,a close fit on the spindle to press on the spacing sleeve. With that fully tightened and beginning to bow I applied a tap-soft hammer-to the other end of the spindle which had the desired effect of unsticking the inner race from the spindle-no impact to the actual bearing at all. I don’t know what preload means in this context but I’ve finished up with no end float and no tightness.

What are you making your raising block from and are you going to make it on the Centec?

02/05/2019 22:50:49

Yes,definitely the long version for all the reasons you say. I hadn’t really thought about the composite approach but I will consider it.If I can get the top and bottom surfaces parallel to one another I think I’ll be half way there,if I can’t it’s time to get professional help

02/05/2019 19:59:46

Thanks for that chaps. I changed the oil when I first bought the machine and was amazed by how clean it was- I doubt that the previous owner had ever changed it- and the bearings looked perfectly ok so far as I could see. So I tried a bit more force. I’d already made a clamping arrangement with 2 lengths of M10 studding and now added,dare I say it,a few sharp taps with a hammer. Lo and behold,barely perceptible end float and it turns as sweetly as can be.

As for the proposed raising block the cheapest supplier I’ve found so far is about £94 inc vat and delivery so I’ll probably order that fairly shortly. I have an old toolmaker friend who will be getting a call if-when-I get stuck. The sensible thing would be to ask him to do it anyway but I’m hardly likely to start doing the sensible thing after all these years.


01/05/2019 17:31:59

Well,I’ve taken the excellent advice about my raising block question and will be ordering a block of aluminium. By using a fairly big flycutter it should be possible to do each surface at one setting,the dovetails are another matter.

In the meantime I set out to investigate a bit of looseness in the main (horizontal milling) spindle. I’ve tightened up the adjusting nuts on the back as the handbook says but there is still almost a sixteenth (1.5mm) of end float when the overarm is removed and some radial play depending on which way it is loaded. I’ve now taken off the locknuts,pulley,sleeve and the plates back and front which are retained by four screws. I’ve also drained the gearbox and removed the covers to get a better view but am at a loss as to how to remove the spindle and bearings for inspection. Can anyone out there help please?

Presumably having done all this it would be sensible to replace the bearings in any case,can anyone recommend a helpful supplier?

Thread: Centec raising block
08/04/2019 17:01:52

Somebody suggested drilling and reaming for a taper pin through the round bit to ease the business of resetting after the head has been tilted,can’t see why that wouldn’t work but I haven’t done it (yet.)

04/04/2019 10:11:17

Paul,Gary, Dave,

yes,the ability to use either mode of milling without troubling the local crane hire firm was the original motivation. Extra capacity is a welcome bonus of course.

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