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Thread: Whittle V8
24/07/2021 13:15:35


So the drawing shows the right end of the jig calling it the front , not the front of the engine which is on the left in your photo with the drawing face outwards on the right, not facing the front of the engine ( actually at the back of the engine!)

23/07/2021 23:01:24

Thanks emgee. Your shaft looks good! Indexing on both ends of the jig?

I joined the group and asked in there as well but still hoping for an answer in here

23/07/2021 12:13:38

ce6ce1da-ea52-45b9-8c33-8b3b86819bc0.jpegI’m at the stage of preparing to make the camshaft, but need to make the machining fixture and a travelling steady, Iv had the casting for 20 years…. Here’s the problem

The photo shows the drawings. Whittle does not fully explain in his notes about the fixture. (Me July 95 #82) The indexing wheel is fixed to the back of the camshaft , his photos of machining it show this at the right on the Miller. However the drawing states only the “ front indexing plate” so is this a view on the END of the fixture OR the view from the Front of the engine/camshaft. I think it’s the former but if I am wrong the engine will run backwards or not at all

Any guidance from anybody who has actually got the engine running would be much appreciated.


Edited By Zan on 23/07/2021 12:35:14

Thread: Stone moving machine
04/07/2021 11:18:51

Interesting concept but would  be better just using balance without the turntable

I suppose the druids would just pop down to the local timber merchant fir the very very thick planks needed to support the weight, feet thick? then get them to send a forklift to get the stone onto the top…


Edited By Zan on 04/07/2021 11:19:12

Thread: What RCD NVR for a workshop?
04/07/2021 00:10:55

My workshop electrics are fed as a separate ring main from the house consumer unit via a 30 amp trip

by the w shop door is a 24 amp large circuit breaker with built in trip. This means any shop problems do not trip the main house unit. I use this as a main power switch and turn all off when exiting, so all the led machine lights and other stuff have no chance of running without me there. It has worked brilliantly for 18 years.

i fitted a new inverter to my Bridgeport . Now when switching on this machine, it trips my shop breaker randomly, about 1:5 ratio, it triggers the house every 3-4 months. It has nothing to do with the electrics in the machine cabinet, as I have systematically rewired these so that nothing was working and the inverter was directly wired to the mains plug, using the socket to power up. Motor start is via the remote digital controls. Still had occasional trips even with this.
any ideas? Could this be a problem with the built in filter, as indicated above which a parameter change can disable….

Thread: Surface finish when turning.
26/06/2021 23:47:18

What speeds and feeds are you using?

Thread: Pitch Circle
22/06/2021 10:02:27

Ps it seems that with your crank problems, you will need a serious lot of checking at all stages of this build, as you have now identified two areas of error.

22/06/2021 10:00:11

As most drawings are produced by amateurs working in home workshops, and detailing what they have actually made the drawings are only as good as the skill of the designer in fully detailing ( or remembering ) any changes which had to be made as the build progressed. All drawings thus should be checked as far as possible for correct dimensions as it can lead to complications. I am making a loco donkey pump at the moment, using magazine drawings. The height if the pump block was given in its main drawing at 1/16” less than shown in the later drawing of the water passageways . This I missed this, so it gave me headaches to sort out, solved by making the top plate 1/16 thicker to make the block big enough for the stroke of the pump , but I still had another couple of mods to make to sort things out. The drawings for this loco build are tremendously accurate with tiny clearances and I trust them! It is essential as even with careful checking, a component assembly may have been made a long time before adjacent components are fitted, and mistakes in the drawings may not be spotted even with diligent care But as seen problems still arise. I suspect the problem this time was with the draftsmanship of the magazine employee rather than the designer.

if you make and measure where do you start? Something is needed to measure! It’s all part of the process as experience and knowledge of interpretation of drawings and the reality of construction grow. But it also needs common sense, you can’t drill holes in fresh air! Your case was a simple printing error . One of the advantage of producing 3D cad drawings is that the dimensioning is automatic to what has been created and such printing errors in both your and my case would not take place! But again, that depends on the designer actually doing that my designer does not use cad, and I am constantly amazed at his skill.

Thread: 2D and 3D Cad Software Recommendations
22/06/2021 09:18:52

Although the free version of 360 has reduced the availability of drawings ( only one drawing sheet per file), they are still possible within the 10 active file limit. It just mean a bit more work on the aspect of which file you keep editable

it takes a lot of effort to learn a new application even if you are familiar with either 2d or 3D cad, they all work differently. I now find fusion a bit frustrating, but i am certain it is still the best free system availiable

Thread: What lathe pointers
14/06/2021 16:02:21

If there’s 5000 members of this forum, there’s 5000 different answers. Every single person has different specific needs and space

Thread: Calculating Diameter
12/06/2021 17:24:20

First you need to decide the thread form whitworth or metric

then you need to determine the pitch if metric or tpi in imperial eg 10 tpi or 2 mm

then get some tables which will show you the proportion and the maths eg, pitch depth is .64 x pitch

then calculate the numbers from the thread profile data

too many unknowns at the moment except your stated diameter, but in wood, you will need a coarse thread to five any real strength

Thread: Can anyone help
07/06/2021 23:16:04

What’s the centre height? More info needed. What have you got? You say “another”

Thread: Taper due to tailstock height misalignment.
07/06/2021 17:55:37

Tom Walshaw, or George Thomas did a study of this about turning morse tapers and the usual advice to get the tool exactly on centre. I seem to remember that even a 10 thou error made almost no difference , units on less than 10th of a thou difference, and the conclusion was that the top slide dovetails would have more error

Thread: Master key - precision chuck.
03/06/2021 14:33:38

So so easy to find out. Just Chuck a piece of very round material. Tighten with each socket in turn noting the dti deflection. Remove bar, rotate it a bit and repeat.
it won’t take you long to find the best socket with the minimum eccentricity which can then be marker with an E for external. Repeat for internal with a suitable blank, and mark the socket I for internal.

if you want a more accurate test, repeat with different dia stock before marking.

 Not much faff, it will only take 5 mins

Edited By Zan on 03/06/2021 14:35:25

Thread: Myford extension for spindle.
31/05/2021 22:07:02

Would be very useful when using my Myford captain thus allowing use of the cross slide for cutoff on my short bed S7

Thread: Injector LBSC type
28/05/2021 19:18:55
Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 27/05/2021 12:13:32:

I have seen the terms 'bare' and 'full'

Bare is SIZE or just less and full is SIZE and a bit more. Looking at the injector here, the cone has to be a stiff push fit so that it doesn't move out of position (a force fit would be too tight for the "slotted cone".

SOD - If I understand correctly, injectors are a little "finicky" and those tight dimensions must be adhered to. having said that, those measurements were by eye from a rule !!


So once again, how much is just less or a bit more? Just as bad as full and bare 5 thou? 10 thou? 15 thou? 1 thou? I think dimensioning in this way goes back to the time of a combination of rulers, odd legs and callipers, and has no place in the modern workshop full of cheap digital equipment . It’s why our creations are so so much better in both fit, detail and interval between maintenance than in the past

Thread: Compressed air for initial engine test
28/05/2021 18:49:50

I think in addition, you will need a big diameter feeder pipe to minimise throttling

Thread: Injector LBSC type
26/05/2021 18:12:25

All my jubilee injectors have only one cone in the centre and they work fine , in place of both the small centre ones. In addition it should be noted they also supply a lot of the trade.


 PS. what  is 1/32” bare? It’s not on my ruler or micrometer. Is it -5 thou?  -10 thou? or whatever. so why not just give the actual dimension

Edited By Zan on 26/05/2021 18:16:37

Thread: Lathe run out
10/05/2021 18:59:37

“not bad for a rusty old bar of 1" cold rolled.” So did you run the dti all along the bar at the front and on the top? Bet it won’t be held true in the Chuck and it will probably be bent accounting for the difference and this bar even if short  will not be held true due to the rust and  rolling tolerance, it’s not an accurate material 

is the runout you quote on the rotating bar?
As said above you need tailstock support and a travelling steady

have you done the standard bobbin turning test to check for any bed twist?

have you done the between centres test to check the tailstock position?

moving the headstock will not be easy due I think it being sat on the v ways on the bed

tread slowly!


Edited By Zan on 10/05/2021 19:01:31

Thread: Myford Super 7 Toolpost issue
07/05/2021 14:10:31

I use 8 mm tooling and have reduced 1” to nothing in two cut,s, but it’s pushing the machine too much, and was just about seeing what it could do. Now I would use use three The 7 series are small lathes and don’t warrant anything bigger. I use exactly the same tooling in my Colchester student without much problem with decent sized cuts

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