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Thread: "It" comes to life again
27/07/2018 07:03:53

The large steam pipes that run to the cylinders I don't think were described with this locomotive.
There were so many errors I decided to go back and double check a lot of parts, which was wise.
The trouble with that is that is this locomotive is going to take longer.

Thankfully, nothing was THAT badly skewed that it was much effort to correct. For all intents and purposes, I am caught up now, in terms of double checking parts.
I am sure that I will have to make another pass at this beast.

21/07/2018 07:59:53

Sorry about the delay, I caught a case of the ebola cold.
It doesn't rain where I live (I'll post evidence of why) and when it does finally sprinkle its as though every illness known to man is carried in those few pathetic drops and a bunch of people fall ill.

For some reason I was very pleased with how the superheater elements turned out on this locomotive.

15/07/2018 09:06:49

Alright here it is again.

The good news was that the boiler for the most part was correct, there were only little tiny errors that I found with things that fall into the category of "annoyance" rather than anything else.

I must admit this locomotive has warmed me a bit to British Railways locomotives, despite the fact that I think that they look like soulless versions of big four locomotives that have been nationalised and other wise sold themselves to the devil in the name of standardisation.

I am 100% positive that I will need to find the book/articles for BR 75000 to detail this thing as I would like it.

No matter what happens with these designs though, I do plan on still trying to at the bare minimum find a way to preserve all of LBSC's writing, designs, etc. How that would happen, be allowed etc. I have no idea, but from the advice of a friend who works in the world of museums, that would be the best bet. 
I don't know how long my sanity will hold drafting his designs, but as long as the words and music are preserved, I think I would be happy.

For the record, I had no idea how many locomotives he designed.
The count so far (which I can get into the finer points of how I arrived at this number) is north of 200.

There is no way on this earth that I would ever want to put this much attention into that many locomotives, I am already being harangued for grand children by my parents as it is- which takes priority over drawing gobs of locomotives.  


Edited By Dean da Silva on 15/07/2018 09:11:57

15/07/2018 08:14:51
Posted by David George 1 on 15/07/2018 07:39:35:

Dean I am amazed with your skill and determination I look forward to your posts to see what I would love to do if only.


Thank you sir, it's a labour of masochism.

14/07/2018 09:38:34
Posted by Tomfilery on 14/07/2018 08:57:44:


It's really nice to see you back - hope you won't drive yourself too hard this time.

You are doing a lovely job - as usual!

Regards Tom


Curiously I am getting to a part which is more enjoyable, the boiler.
I once thought this boiler was the worst boiler I could imagine, boy was I wrong- Mr. Evans gave me a nasty surprise with Natal.

It's a beautifully elegant design but since I was having trouble getting it exactly right it went from being "Wow, this is impressive, thermal siphon, angled flues, very modern" to "What a piece of crap, can't you just design a simple boiler like the one the 15F has?!"

It should be noted that the boiler is still wrong in this rendering, I actually hung up the proverbial hat on this one all together and handed over copies of the files to a VERY talented South African draftsman.

14/07/2018 07:58:31

Alright I'm back at it.

In order to prevent me from having a third burn out on this locomotive I have made the decision that in the future I won't likely draft back head fittings or lubricators. Regulators yes, but the pipe work on the back head and injectors fall into the "probably not" category. Here's why:

1. A lot of people buy them pre-made.
2. I don't know how it will be when I machine them, but I am 98% certain that drawings for those will not be what guides me. It would be literally written instructions.
3. Running the pipes for this thing can get very tedious, very annoying, and very time intensive. I don't enjoy that, it's what caused me to burn out on this thing for a second time.

A friend of mine in the UK really did take a liking to my revision of Ivy Hall, and he thinks we should build it.
This could get interesting, since my ability with machining is... bad and he's in the UK. He might end up machining the castings while I do the assembly and what not in the states. 

Forgive the bad writing, its late.
Since I drew up the lubricator already, its on there.
The running boards were put on to test whether or not they would clear the lubricator, which I moved back half an inch. Thankfully it clears everything.

As far as the cab goes, stupid question on my behalf, does British Railways usually leave the cab window trim brass or is it painted to go with the rest of the locomotive?


Edited By Dean da Silva on 14/07/2018 07:59:42

10/06/2018 23:57:06

I had some work to do on the cylinders, I didn't exactly finish them up right when I drafted the originally.

10/06/2018 06:01:18

The devil spawn coming back to life, part III.

I noticed a lot of little stupid mistakes- holes omitted, threads skipped, etc. that I didn't originally pick up on.
The good news is that nothing has had to be redrawn completely yet- but the cylinders will require some serious attention.

07/06/2018 06:59:31
Posted by Perko7 on 06/06/2018 10:20:33:
Posted by Dean da Silva on 04/06/2018 04:19:27:

Now, as far as the next project is concerned should I:

-Revisit Rose?
-Finish Zoe?
-Finish up doing the Dot/Doris family?

I recall you had previously mentioned a strong attraction to Zoe so i think you should allow that itch to be scratched.

You sir are correct!
I think that gauge 1 designs of Curly's represent probably one of his most interesting cross sections of work, and the one that I am most interested in drafting frankly. Here's why:

1. More of these designs have vanished than are still sold commercially.

2. His first serial ever was for an American gauge 1 locomotive.

3. It's an interesting spread to say the least, ranging from standard gauge locomotives to narrow gauge (in both 1/2" scale and 3/4" scale)

4. I really like the fact that there are riding models in this range of his, and designs which have been halved that are compatible with the 3 1/2" gauge versions.

5. A lot of his designs in other scales have gauge one variants, which is nice.

6. The America "issue". If I plan on building any of these (which I likely would) here's the status of the various gauges in the UK in the US:

-0 Gauge live steam: mostly 16mm scale, other wise standard gauge (1:43/1:48) doesn't exist really.
-1 Gauge: wildly popular. I would love to build one that can be ridden, ride it, and blow some American minds.
-2.5" Gauge: dead
-3.5" Gauge: alive, sort of catching on again.
-5" Gauge: doesn't exist really.

7. I do need to do other things with my time (learn to machine, find a future Mrs. da Silva) than draft. 3.5" gauge locomotives have a lot of parts on them compared to the gauge 1 versions. I also have work from clients, which suffice to say is a headache of its own right. The gauge 1 locomotives won't be as time consuming or cause me to pull out as much of my hair, at least I don't think.

Satan's rebirth, part II.

06/06/2018 05:54:04

I wish I could say that I was satisfied with how it turned out the first time.
I wish I could say that I had done a better job with a lot of these parts the first time around.
I wish I could say a lot of things because guess who is going back through the WHOLE BLOODY LOCOMOTIVE AND DOUBLE CHECKING EVERYTHING!?

Since I have decided against trying to draft the locomotive in its original form (just too ugly) there are some minor modifications which I have to do to this beast in order for everything to fit correctly.

I learned the value of NOT getting out of order with this sort of thing- it can be bad.

04/06/2018 04:19:27

I made a gut wrenching discovery today- I think that I am going to have to go back through this monster and see what I have and have not completed, double check a lot of the parts and ensure that I have not made some glaring errors with this beast.

I'm looking forward to it about as much as I am looking forward to a hole in the head.

However, it did crop up out of the woodwork for me already today, so this is about to get really stupid.

Not to mention I am going to have to relocated the mechanical lubricator, since I have decided to only draw this locomotive up in its modified form.

Now, as far as the next project is concerned should I:

-Revisit Rose?
-Finish Zoe?
-Finish up doing the Dot/Doris family?

There is plenty to chose from!

Thread: A little distracted from LBSC
03/06/2018 19:36:26
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 03/06/2018 13:03:04:

Hi Dias,

I think the reasons many LBSC designs are ignored are:

  • They are often incomplete.
  • Information is not readily available on the web.
  • People want the effort put into an engine to result in success, so they tend to follow established designs.
  • Some gauges have a limited following.

Your work is raising the profile of some of these forgotten designs and filling in the gaps. Also by visul,aising them , that will give people a better idea of what they will get at the end.

If your results are made available on the web, ultimately many of them will be more likely to be built, even if it take many years.


I see what you did there!
I know, I have dragged my feet on a webpage.

Thread: "It" comes to life again
03/06/2018 19:35:22
Posted by Jon Lawes on 03/06/2018 18:59:25:

That looks fantastic. I like the high running boards of this design.

Curiously, I do believe that the original high running boards on this were what doomed the design. They looked awful, almost akin to a snowplow.

Thanks everyone for the kind words

03/06/2018 08:48:46

This is going off of where Curly put the lines on the drawing for this locomotive.

Chances of me keeping the lines where they are have dropped to exactly zero, I will be copying them off of the King class in BR guise.

The wheels will always be poorly drawn.

Not really.

03/06/2018 07:22:49

I should clarify one thing:

Once this thing is done I will be heading immediately into the South African work I am doing.

LBSC is a walk in the park compared to Martin Evans.

03/06/2018 07:22:48

I should clarify one thing:

Once this thing is done I will be heading immediately into the South African work I am doing.

LBSC is a walk in the park compared to Martin Evans.

02/06/2018 23:13:26

I've put some cladding on the boiler, I think that this was a good idea over all, I really do enjoy working on this design more with some colour on it.

I really do still think that this is a truly regal locomotive, a beautiful fusion of BR and GWR design elements. 
While there is only so realistic an LBSC locomotive TRULY can be (they just aren't super realistic) I do want to see this one to a good ending. 

Once this one is done, I would like to get started on Zoe again. 

Edited By Dean da Silva on 02/06/2018 23:36:03

Thread: A little distracted from LBSC
02/06/2018 21:51:59

Curiously the 25 series is one of the most modern, fascinating locomotives I have ever seen.
The Red Devil was built from one, they came in both condensing and non-condensing versions- hence the NC.

I would very much like to design one of them in 3.5" gauge, perhaps even in 7.5" gauge (keep in mind I live in Arizona, USA) with a functional condensing system, fan and stoker. That would be the opus for me I'm sure.

Thread: "It" comes to life again
02/06/2018 21:43:33

I know that people enjoy the more natural finish of the locomotives, but for some reason being able to colourise the parts as I go along with the drafting has made the process a lot more enjoyable for me. I think it is part of the reason I was enjoying doing Natal so much.
As thus, I have started going through and doing the same with Ivy/Thompson Hall.

Of course, there is a ways to go still. I do plan on cladding the boiler, very thinly thanks to Curly's methods of design, but all the same it looks rather uncivilised with out it.

Thread: A little distracted from LBSC
02/06/2018 20:18:51

The catch with the work that I was doing with LBSC really started to make itself apparent when I started looking into the smaller scales stuff (2.5" gauge and below) which is when I started to consider something:

"Will people really ACTUALLY enjoy this work, build it, etc.?"

That, I won't lie, is what completely threw me.
I could spend years drafting all of these designs, for what? I have a feeling that the designs that are already popular, that people want to build do exist, and that unlike the Martin Evans design that I am working on, the magazine articles are complete. If at the minimum I can preserve copies of those, I think that I would be satisfied with a lot of the designs.

The one that upset me the most was Kingette. I really hoped that it would have been more detailed (in terms of the writing), alas, it was not. I may be able to make the design look acceptable, however, I don't think that I would be content with it though.

Another issue arose, which I find just as troubling: there are a lot of locomotives which would need to be revisited in CAD to correct errors that have been found, from what I understand that includes Rodean.

Suffice to say, this bear went from being a Teddy, to a cub, to a Sun Bear to a really annoyed Kodiak.

As far as South African Railways locomotives are concerned, I think that African locomotives in general are a wonderful prototype to model (I say this with a bias of course) thanks to the large size and power that they have. The Natal has a lot of power, in fact, I would say that it is on par with some smaller 7.5" gauge locomotives I have seen in the US. Between the power, the size, I believe that the fusion of American and British design elements on them truly leads to some handsome locomotives.

The 15F that I plan on developing will be called "Transvaal" and the 15CA "Vrystaat" after the pre-1994 names of provinces, like Errors Evans did with Natal.

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