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Thread: Flycutters: help to understand 3 different types
07/12/2018 12:09:38

I agree ! All sorts of things can be cut with a flycutter.

This is a couple of pictures of a dovetail slide that I made that way. The really hard part was making sure that both the male and female parts fitted together properly.

I admit that I did cheat a little. After making the male half, I took a slice off the end and used it as a template when making the female half. They are a nice fit and slide together well.



The brass screw on the left of the top picture is for locking the slide.

The screw on the bottom picture drives the two parts.


Edited By John Baron on 07/12/2018 12:10:44

06/12/2018 19:17:23

Hi BW,

All the fly cutters seen in this thread will work ! The only one that I would not use is the boring head.

The primary requirements are rigidity, and balance ! Out of balance forces cause various issues, vibration being the least desirable. A fly cutter has to be able to encompass the work area or you have to make multiple passes. Clearance, you don't want to collide with any protruding obstacle, hence the angled cutter type.


This is one of mine. 3" inches in diameter, 20 mm thick, 20 mm spindle. A heavy rigid body and spindle. Well balanced, and a good flywheel effect. Particularly important if making interrupted cuts. I can take a 1 mm DOC in mild steel at a 150-200 rpm. The tool bit in this one is 5/16" square HSS.


Edited By John Baron on 06/12/2018 19:19:27

Thread: Arduino DRO
29/11/2018 16:58:54

Hi Guys,

FWIW every HP inkjet printer has an linear optical positioning system that is easy to get at and provides directional information. The reader head, whilst different in size to say a slot opto, is very similar electrically. Without checking the technical data sheet for the optical reader head I don't know how fine the steps are, certainly the tape is at least 200 lines to the inch.

Thread: ML7 Quick change suggestions
23/11/2018 20:20:25

Why not make one ? The Norman Patent tool post is a good project !


This is mine, sized for the Myford lathe.

Thread: Cutting a keyway without a broach
11/11/2018 09:50:21

Hi BW,

Why don't you try it !

I'll guarantee that you can't pull it out by hand !

That retaining method has been around for a great number of years ! One of its uses is to retain two round shafts that are not in perfect alignment and provide drive from one to the other. You can find examples of this in some of the old radios of the 20's and 30's. I do believe that its used in some rotary tools today.

Thread: Myford ml7 tools size
10/11/2018 20:08:29

Hi Tom,

If you have the ability, make a "Norman" patent tool post ! I made one for my Myford S7 and can use from 1/4"  inch up to 1/2" inch square tool size. Most of the work building one is turning and threading. I posted a picture of mine a short while ago. I also have the drawings based on the original patent by Van Norman.

Its one of those things that I wish I had made years ago. In fact Myford actually produced and sold the ML3 and I believe ML4 lathes with one already fitted.

Forgot to add I use HSS tool bits,  the Myford doesn't really have enough speed for making best use of carbide.




Edited By John Baron on 10/11/2018 20:11:43

Edited By John Baron on 10/11/2018 20:12:32

Thread: Cutting a keyway without a broach
10/11/2018 19:55:50

Hello Mike,

Yes I published mine in 2010, so that would have been just before you're article. The similarity prompted my reply to the post. Since I didn't even know that you're web site existed.

I recall that the method of retaining the toolbit caused some interest at the time !

It seems that great minds think alike. I'll have to go and have a wander around and see what else you have done



10/11/2018 16:55:57
Posted by Michael Cox 1 on 08/11/2018 21:59:27:

Here is an easily made adjustable broach:

I would suggest that you remove most of the material by drilling or milling first and then use the adjustable broach to clean up the slot.


That tool is based on the one that I published on another forum some years ago


One of the things that makes it unique, is the method I used of retaining the cutter.

Thread: inside an induction hob
02/11/2018 15:05:39

I agree ! Why pay them money to make more money from your scrap !

There are a lot of very nice and useful components in a lot of the stuff that we have to pay to get rid of. The local scrapyard will gladly take this stuff of your hands for free, simply to survive.

The last lot of electronics scrap I took to the scrappy, I got £250 for 1/2 a ton. Mainly computer PCB's.

Thread: Myford Super 7 Serial Number Missing
27/10/2018 18:16:29

Hi Guys,

It could be one of the Taiwanese clone Myfords, or just the bed and rebuilt.

Thread: Myford QCTP Recommendations
25/10/2018 17:41:55

Hi Michael,

I hadn't noticed the spelling error !

Thanks for pointing it out !

Thread: Power feed for a mill.
25/10/2018 10:03:14

Hi Guys,

I made a mill table drive using a salvaged car window wiper motor. It can easily be powered from an old computer PSU. Using the gearing that I used, at 7 to 8 volts it takes about 2 amps.


The white knob pulls back to allow direction changes with a neutral position in the middle. It is a simple dog in a slot mechanism. The wiper motor is dual speed, not that its needed since I actually use a variable voltage PSU and can crank up the voltage to 30 for fast traverse if I need to.

Thread: Myford QCTP Recommendations
25/10/2018 09:35:16
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 24/10/2018 20:35:10:

Hey don't spoil the Normal Toolholder article in the next MEW


Might pay you to drop me a copy of the article then !

I have a complete set of drawings based on the original patent. Though I have published my design in a number of places.

24/10/2018 19:55:13

Hi Guys,

I've just made a "Norman patent toolholder for my Myford S7B. I should have done this years ago.


No modifications to the lathe, just removing the old tool holder and replacing it with a 38 mm diameter post. I also made a new nut to get rid of the ball handle.

Thread: Bench grinder improvement mod.
07/10/2018 17:36:44

Hi Guys,

That tiny lip becomes an issue with the cheap nasty monkey metal flanges that seem to get supplied with most grinders nowadays. A good close fitting washer works wonders, extending the bore of the washer is even better !

Better still is facing the washer square actually on the grinder shaft.

Don't forget to use blotters on each side of the wheel.

Thread: More Scam from the Scum?
07/10/2018 17:28:02

Don't get taken in by this crap ! This scam has been doing the rounds for a little while.

But just in case a bit of tape over your camera and mic will solve any issues with being recorded and videoed.

Thread: Carbide Inserts and Holder Recommendation
20/09/2018 14:57:31

Hi Guys,

Lack of balance and vibration are just two of the issues with fly cutters.

These are my fly cutter tools !


This one is on a 20 mm shaft and is made from a 20 mm thick steel disc three inches in diameter.

The tool bit is basically any old bit of broken HSS. The piece that you see in the disc is a bit of 6 mm HSS, square lathe tool ground as required. It is simply secured by a single hex grub screw.


This picture shows using a fly cutter to machine the fork of a bearing holder to a given thickness. The tool was simply turned over to cut the other leg and the mill run the other way.

The large body mass has a flywheel effect and reduces vibration due to any out of balance.


Edited By John Baron on 20/09/2018 15:01:15

Thread: Carriage slipping
09/09/2018 10:36:32

It looks like a right hand insert tool mounted upside down. It looks really odd like that.

Thread: The size and shape of drill holes
06/09/2018 12:18:18

Hi Guys,

At one time I used to use "D" bits to drill 3/32" holes in brass 6" deep. Needs a lot of pecking and blowing out !

I stopped using a "D" bit as a drill, when Dormer made me a very long 5/64" drill specially for this job. I first drilled the hole with the new drill and then followed with the "D" bit.

Thread: how to machine an internal curve
06/09/2018 12:07:27

Hi Guys,

Its taken me nearly an hour to post a picture !

Put your own expletives in !

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