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Thread: New Member from Suffolk England
17/10/2019 19:26:21

I also live in Suffolk.... just over the Cambs/Suffolk border between Newmarket and Bury St Edmunds



Thread: Old model engineer volumes
02/09/2019 19:20:28

On Saleroom auction site today over 200 bound volumes of ME dating from 1902 sold for the ridiculously low price of £45...!

Mind you, you will need an extra room to house them all in.

BTW how far back do the digital archives go back?



Thread: What is it- may be waterways ?
29/07/2019 18:08:36


Yes BWB would be British Waterways Board. It may have been attached to a wooden balance beam of a lock gate as BWB used to make and repair them in their workshops.



Thread: Buying a Lathe, as always the age old questions...
22/07/2019 14:11:53


I have a Myford S7 with gearbox, imperial and no powered cross slide circa 1962/3 (I don't really miss not having power cross feed to be honest). I bought it second hand ages ago. Its a dated design granted, but if it was good enough for T D Walshaw (aka Tubal Cain) and George Thomas (and others), it was good enough for me.

Plus there were loads of articles in the ME on building gadgets for it - head stock dividing attachments etc etc. I did without a vertical mill for years (young family+priorities = no money).

I am sure old Boxfords and Harrison lathes are cheaper and maybe better, but for a small lathe the Myford works well for me, but of course it depends on what you want to build.......but make sure that you give ANY future used machine tool a thorough inspection and observe it under power. There are others on here who can advise you much more on this issue.



Thread: Surplus subjects learnt at school.
22/07/2019 13:53:08

Wow, a lot of clever people on here, Grammer school?!

I failed the 11 plus, went to a bog standard secondary modern skool, Latin, Greek? I took 7 CSE's and failed the lot. I loved metalwork and woodwork generally due to the good teachers (thanks you Mr Salmon and Mr Waters).

Hated school, could not wait to leave, did an apprenticeship in a shipyard as a marine engineer this led on to other jobs and ironically a further total of 12 years at technical colleges doing further engineering study in first mechanical stuff and then electronic things.....I much enjoyed technical college, better learning environment for me I suppose - I guess I was a late developer...

Regards to all


Thread: Remembering Apollo 11
17/07/2019 08:22:29

I was 11, and was one of those who stayed up till the early hours (was it around 4am UK time?) to watch, on an ancient black and white TV, Armstrong step out on the the moon surface.....It did seem ages to wait after the landing until they decided to get out though.

What I don't recall is watching the launch, although I followed all the space stuff during the early 70's. Including rushing home from school to catch up on the latest news!

One other thing can you imagine the frustration of this event being behind a pay wall/pay for view i.e. sky, and not being able to witness live this massive event in human history?



Thread: Different ways of boring a hole
15/07/2019 12:54:29

Hi Bill

I have used between centres boring bars from boring out 30 inch diameter holes on the stern frames of ships, to holes less than an inch diameter on my little Myford lathe.

Between centres boring is easy, and accurate, but it does take a while and the hardest part is to set the job up to the lathe centre height and also clamp the job securely without distorting the cross slide or the job.



Thread: What Did You Do Today 2019
15/07/2019 12:43:18


This weekend I have been boring.......boring the two castings LH and RH for the Quorn I am making.

BTW in another thread regarding boring holes, I had no problems at all in managing to bore 4 off 1 inch dia holes within a thou of nominal diameter and two pairs of these holes at 3.5 inches +/- 0.000 apart on my old circa 1962/3 Myford.

It took a couple of days though and I had to put up with "jokes" from my other half about me boring.....sigh...

I used a between centres boring bar made from a kit from Hemingway Tools.



Thread: Timesaver - which grades?
11/07/2019 12:28:13
Posted by ega on 11/07/2019 11:08:17:
Posted by derek hall 1 on 10/07/2019 16:03:25:

I am currently building a Quorn and having bored out the LH and RH casting, the front bar calls for a "sliding fit" between these cast iron holes and the front steel bars.


Are you slitting your Quorn bores or installing split cotters?

If I were doing it again I would definitely do the latter.

Hi, I am using the GHT cotter method. It worked fine on the dividing head, and UPT.

For the front bar of the Quorn, the fit between front bar and bore has to be a little more.....shall we say "slidey" without shake but not "tightey" smiley

10/07/2019 16:03:25

Hi, perfect timing for this question. I was going to post the exact same thing!

I am currently building a Quorn and having bored out the LH and RH casting, the front bar calls for a "sliding fit" between these cast iron holes and the front steel bars. I did some research and it does seem that "Timesaver" seemed to be the right stuff.

I need to take off the last thou (ish) to get this desired fit.

It looks expensive though but I am told little goes a long way. It does seem that the compound does break down completely. Do not under any circumstances use emery or grinding paste as this will embed into the cast iron and the cast iron bore now becomes an external lap!

I also considered one of those 3 legged brake cylinder hone.

Going to try and use medium and fine as suggested. My local stockist has it in kits - comes in 4 grade, coarse medium, fine and extra fine.



Thread: Slitting saw arbour
17/06/2019 14:22:29

Hi Dave, I like those arbours you made.

Are you relying on the clamping action to hold the saw in place or do you use a key way to engage in the saw?

I always feel that if the keyway is used than it will be goodbye saw if it gets stuck in a slot.. Instead if the two clamps are used to retain the saw as in your arbour, in the event of the saw gutting stuck then it "may" not be the end of the saw.

A bought a small slitting saw arbour, and it was rubbish, I will copy yours....if you don't mind !



Thread: What do YOU call it?
22/05/2019 19:03:01

Don't forget the subtle scent of cutting oil..

Thread: The Chocolate Fireguard as designed by Mercedes Benz
08/05/2019 12:14:45

A colleague at work showed me a picture of a EV charging station at a motorway service station, behind the charging stations and connected to them, was a very large silent running diesel generator separated by a discrete hedge.....



Thread: Myford Super 7 Bed Wear
28/03/2019 08:18:13

It is sad to see this abuse on any lathe bed....a simple wooden "chuck" board laid across the bed to protect it during chuck changes - or hack sawing whilst job is still in the lathe would have saved all the "dings" and dents to the bed...



Thread: Morse Taper 2 blanks
04/03/2019 13:40:23

Wow thanks for the replies....10 mins after my post!

This is why this website and forum is so good.

Thanks guys...


04/03/2019 13:24:56

Hi all,

Rather than go to the hassle of setting up my top slide to a known MT2 to make an external MT2 using nice free cutting mild steel, I have obtained a supposedly soft blank MT2 arbor, because it might be quicker, easier and certainly more accurate.

The problem is I need to machine down the "tail" of the external blank MT arbor and internal screw cut (1/2 inch x 32tpi) for a different draw bar thread. - well this is not really the problem, the problem is that the steel at this end of the arbor is tough - really is not easy to machine - actually almost impossible....HSS tools and drills struggle

There are lots of suppliers who advertise MT blank arbors. So are there any genuine "soft" MT2 arbors that are soft throughout or are they only "soft" enough to machine at the large business end of the arbor?

Regards to all


Thread: Quorn Castings
18/02/2019 13:44:32


I asked a guy (a well respected model engineer and I cannot recall his namesad) who was demonstrating the Quorn at this years Midlands Model Engineering exhibition, that I cannot seem to find anyone in the UK that supplies Quorn castings.

He responded that Ivan Law's son was involved now in the supply of Quorn castings and that I should contact him. Unfortunately I do not have his address or email. I am assuming this person is the same that is helping in the upcoming Model Engineering exhibition at Harrogate this year....

I also asked how long did it take him to build the Quorn.....?....his reply 4 months!

If you do find a UK supplier of Quorn castings then please let us know...

Best regards


11/02/2019 13:01:12

Well I have recently obtained a set of Quorn castings and I am about to start building it, as its the building of "things" that I enjoy. I know I can free hand grind HSS lathe tools or just buy a new milling cutter but its the challenge that interests me.

Over the years the designers and builders of engines and kit that I grew up reading who now are no longer with us and I want to build a few things that they described in the ME.

For example, I have built many of GHT's workshop equipment and its very worthwhile and useful kit, I have made some engines and of tools described by the late great Tubal Cain, and I always wanted to build the Quorn to the design of prof Chaddock.

I did my apprenticeship in 1974 to 1978 and in the stores in the first year they had some ME magazines, and in one or two issues was the description of the day I thought, I want to make one of them! 45 years later I got the castings! a 16 year old in 1974 perhaps that was the spark for me stay with Model Engineering for the rest of my life...

Regards to all

Thread: Single to 3 phase invertor and smart meters
10/02/2019 12:46:34

Wow, so many opinions on a smart meter!

This is why this forum is so good.....!

I have to say reading all of your comments I have come to the conclusion to convert the super 7 to 3 phase via an invertor but to call EON and cancel the smart meter!!!.....what was I thinking smiley ?

Best regards to all of you


09/02/2019 11:58:45


I am thinking of converting my myford with a transwave or newton tesla package, but also just about to get my electricity supplier to fit a fancy smart meter soon.

Has anyone had any issues with this combination or shall i just cancel the smart meter install?



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