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Thread: What did you do Today 2018
18/04/2018 20:22:21

Would I be correct in saying that water companies do not allow their use in new installations anymore?

Thread: English dialect
18/04/2018 07:38:20

My mother was born & raised in Berwick on Tweed but moved to Essex when she married. As a result her accent changed. However, whenever we went back to Berwick, after a few days it was really noticeable how her old accent & phrases, which she never used in Essex, came back as she spoke to the locals.

18/04/2018 07:32:28

The first time I sailed round UK I stopped at Peterhead. I wanted to find a supermarket which is a long walk from the marina.

The first 3 groups I asked for directions were Polish !!! & could not tell me.

Then I came to a bearded chap & asked the way & he replied in a broad accent & I said " at last English" meaning English speaking

I thought he was going to slaughter me. He went into a tirade about being Scottish & wanted nothing to do with the sassenachs & would not give me directions until I explained & apologised profusely.

I never got round to explaining that I was from clan Graham on my mother's side in case they were still at war

Thread: What did you do Today 2018
15/04/2018 09:19:10

I have used a fountain pen for years but I chucked the Parker ones as they all leaked badly. Modern ones are not as good as the older Parkers. I have had my current Sheaffer (which cost me circa £ 70-80-00 & is excellent) for about 6 years & sits by my armchair.

It is odd that when I was working, a couple of juniors commented that it added to an air of authority. I think it was possibly because fountain pens in the modern office is something of a rareity

10/04/2018 08:29:36
Posted by Danny M2Z on 10/04/2018 01:30:24:

Fishing talk, I love it.

yummy trout_1.jpg

Pornography for the more mature gentleman

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 10/04/2018 08:32:12

09/04/2018 17:56:29


Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 09/04/2018 17:58:01

09/04/2018 17:50:57

My uncle was a baliff for most of his life & lived around Galashiels. He always said he could tickle trout, but i never saw it. He did take me fishing on the Till a few times though & he just seemed to always catch fish when others could not. But, like my grandfather, he would only fish at certain times. Sometimes he would go to the river, then just walk away. My grandfather was born a 100 yards from the Beamont & fished it all his life (his grave overlooks the valley) but he was the same. Sometimes he had no interest, then suddenly you could not keep him away from it.

09/04/2018 13:48:06
Posted by Mike on 09/04/2018 11:50:27:

Sam, I used to get the same treatment when I visited my uncle in Perthshire. In the era, angling clubs used to net grayling and coarse fish, and bury thousands of them on the banks. I used to catch a lot on the Isla and, unbeknown to my uncle, I used to put them back. Talking of Intrepid reels, a friend of my wife's gave me an Intrepid fly reel a couple of years ago after she had cleared the house of a deceased relative. Included in quite a collection I acquired was a "proper" Mitchell fixed-spool from the days when they were made in France, and a built cane spinning rod from the same period.


My  grandfather would have shot me if i had put a coarse fish back. that was a crime !!!

It is funny how older anglers love their "Mitchells" I went to buy one years ago but compared to a Diawa, at the time for the same price, there was no comparison & I could not see the attraction

My split cane fly rod was presented to me by my grandfather when I was about 12 & was made by Martinez & Bird of Reddich.Still a weapon of choice when i get a chance to go. I think that it is better than my late father's Hardy fly rod which i also have. Purchased about the same time from the shop in Picadilly London.

For years I used to drive past the Hardy museum on the AI & tell my wife I wanted to stop & look round. When one day I finally did, it bored her to tears. Women have no appreciation of the finer things in life.


Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 09/04/2018 13:54:49

09/04/2018 11:22:09
Posted by Mike on 09/04/2018 10:52:27:

Sam: The maker of Intrepid reels was Ken Morritt (spelling?) I worked for Angling Times for many years in the 1960s and 1970s, and we did any number of feature articles on roach fishing in Scotland. I took some really big catches on the Tay just below Perth, the Erne, the Forth & Clyde canal, and the Forth at Stirling. You have stirred up some really happy memories.

Actually I may have just beaten you to it. I just could not remember as I typed it - the database is full now according to my son & daughter- & stuff drops out the bottom- as they love to remind me. You will see that i have edited it to KP Moritt. ( like you - spelling!!) it is one of those useless thing that stick in ones mind. As soon as i went back to visit my grandad I wanted to try it & he absolutely refused to take me. We had to go fly fishing for "proper" fish instead

I still have my Intrepid reel & there is really nothing wrong with it, considering its age (unlike me!!)

09/04/2018 10:38:17
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 09/04/2018 10:01:11:
Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 07/04/2018 22:49:03:

There used to be a picture of me by the Tweed as a 6 year old holding a salmon by its tail. Its head was touching the ground & its tail level with my head. the fishermen working for the Berwick Salmon fishing Co would catch a dozen or more every night sometimes several dozen. It has all gone. The fish all taken to such an extent that very few of the young return to the rivers to spawn even if those rivers are accessible to them

Years ago the locals would watch the Salmon under the bridges at Berwick in great shoals waiting for the tide to turn to start running up the river Tweed. Now they are lucky to see a single fish

All is not lost, at the moment I'm involved with two projects that include works to improve fish passage past weirs, one of them has a high expectation of returning salmon to an excellent stretch for breeding, the other is part of a longer-term restoration but it will improve the connections between currently isolated fish populations.

The picture of me was at the union chain bridge. If you look at the fisherman's hut & walk away from the bridge about 70 yards down river & go into the scrub just up the bank a bit you will find a hidden door. This is the entrance to the fish store they used to keep the salmon in when caught until the van collected them each day.

The bank at that part is a terrible mess. it is now badly overgrown & not the lovely shingle bank that they used to cast the nets from.

If one were to walk up the river to the first bend the coarse fishers used to catch roach there. The salmon fishers hated them as they saw them as competition for food so they used to gather great shoals of grayling ( which they disliked as well) & roach in the nets & drag them onto the banks & let them die.

Many years ago the angling times published an article about the bloke who made the Intrepid reels, K P Morritt, fishing in by the island above the wier at Kelso for roach. they caught lbs of them.

Last time I was there I could not see a single one. I used to catch a few roach (to my grandfather's disgust) at Horncliff on the bend where the stream comes in down the hill but 15 years ago I tried it & could not even get a trout.

3 Years ago for the first time in 64 years I saw 2 seals surface at the Chain bridge so that suggests that there were salmon about. How they got above the rapids just below I am not sure but the river was in spate.. My grandfather never once mentioned that so I assume it was a first. The fishermen often shot them when they caught them in their nets off the pier by the Shad

If you are involved in conservation of the Tweed you will , I am sure know about those places

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 09/04/2018 10:50:35

08/04/2018 09:31:32
Posted by ChrisH on 07/04/2018 22:47:06:Just sail down the Solent on a sunny summer Saturday, and then more up overnight in places like Yarmouth or Cowes or Lymington, and see what I mean - it shocks you. Why it shocks I don't know, as you see the same on any road in the UK where 'me first - I can do what I like' prevails. Total lack of consideration of others, just me me me.

So I can quite believe Mike and agree with him when he complains of yacht-ties and other water users upsetting fishing folk - if only people would think and have consideration for others.

Somehow I wonder if this is really a rant about inconsiderate yachtie versus fishermen although it started out that way. if it was then i could point to all the poorly marked crab pots around our coast & the real danger to life. Or I could point to the discarded fishing net that caught in my prop meaning that I had to sail across the Channel at night having 4 near misses with ships & then being towed into Dover to be lifted & have it removed at not inconsiderable cost.

But I accept that as a hazard & get on with life

However, i wonder if your comment & the ones that follow, are really ones about inconsiderate !!""$$, who , like you say, have absolutely no consideration for others; & that goes for just about everything & not just the poor old "Yotties"- & a "Yottie" is not one who helms a motor boat by the way. Sailing boats are actually quite quiet. That is - to some- the attraction ,

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 08/04/2018 09:35:22

07/04/2018 22:49:03
Posted by Mike on 07/04/2018 21:56:39:
Sorry, Sam - not talking about proper ocean yachtsmen such as yourself but the inconsiderate dinghy sailor idiots who plagued the English reservoirs, lakes. and rivers when I lived south of the Borders. Sail past
my house any time you like, and I'll give you a friendly wave any time. When you fished the Tweed you were lucky - you should see some Scottish rivers now.

My grandfather was borne in Yetholm near the end of the Pennine Way. Through it runs the river Beaumont.When he was a lad, it was deep enough for his father to try & commit suicide by drowning himself in it. One of my early memories of it was of my grandfather catching a 6lb whitling. Last time I went there I could have paddled across & hardly got my ankles wet.

There used to be a picture of me by the Tweed as a 6 year old holding a salmon by its tail. Its head was touching the ground & its tail level with my head. the fishermen working for the Berwick Salmon fishing Co would catch a dozen or more every night sometimes several dozen. It has all gone. The fish all taken to such an extent that very few of the young return to the rivers to spawn even if those rivers are accessible to them

Years ago the locals would watch the Salmon under the bridges at Berwick in great shoals waiting for the tide to turn to start running up the river Tweed. Now they are lucky to see a single fish

But when you say that sailors plague the reservoirs that is not their fault. Like everyone else they have a hobby/sport, as we do on this forum. It just so happens that yours might be fishing & theirs is sailing & the powers that be have decided to make the lake available to both factions at the same time. You cannot blame the sailors because they have been allowed to use the lake. Blame those that said they could in the first place.

Now you might say that they should stay away from you when you are casting a line, but the rules on most waterways- Broads for example- clearly state that vessels have the right of passage over those fishing from the shore. Now if the same byelaw is in force where you fish then do not blame the sailor for using it. Blame the bloke that made the byelaw. I do not know what your byelaw states but check it & if it is in your favour then you can do something about it & should do so very noisily. if not then perhaps you should not really blame the sailors

07/04/2018 21:22:02
Posted by Mike on 07/04/2018 13:28:23:

, including yachtsmen ruining fishing, and what the answer is in this overcrowded isle I wish I knew. Don't misunderstand me, yachting and canoeing are great sports at which Britain produces world champions, but we do need some answers.

How do yachtsmen ruin fishing? you have me on that one. Can you elucidate, briefly, because I have been sailing since 12 & never knew that i was doing that.

I have visited Inverness twice, & whitehills, on my 2 single handed round UK trips & apart from a few dolphin watchers near Chanonry point I had no idea I was upsetting anyone round the Moray Firth.( where i assume you live from your posts) Or anywhere else for that matter. When I lived at Berwick on Tweed (in the 50's & then later in the 90's)- plus many holidays with my grandparents  I did fish the Tweed  & its tributaries extensively & i never once had problems with canoeists.

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 07/04/2018 21:25:39

07/04/2018 11:50:07
Posted by Clive India on 07/04/2018 09:55:23:
Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 07/04/2018 08:16:19:This post is not about what I did today but what I am going to do tomorrow. Tomorrow I am going to commit murder. I am going to get two of our sailing club members, chop them up in little pieces push them through the mincer & feed them to the fish in the River Blackwater. Then I am going to get the fish & batter them with a big hammer.

Battered fish is always best. This punishment is not harsh enough for sailing people!

Oye!!!- watch it-- nothing wrong with the sailing fraternity- Are you forgetting our heritage? Or are you another one who wants to deny us of our glorious past -- & future

07/04/2018 11:26:50
Posted by Emgee on 07/04/2018 08:43:28:

Sam, sounds like a case of poor planning to me, sparks should have been in first.


Agreed, but try telling that to the well meaning idiot who decided to donate carp wall lights on thursday after everything was almost done.

But how do you tell them they are carp & to poke them?


Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 07/04/2018 11:45:45

07/04/2018 08:16:19

This post is not about what i did today but what i am going to do tomorrow. tomorrow I am going to commit murder. i am going to get two of our sailing club members, chop them up in little pieces push them through the mincer & feed them to the fish in the River Blackwater. then i am going to get the fish & batter them with a big hammer.

The reason is this:- over the winter my club project was to remove the worn seating in the lower loung bar area & put new timber framing with ply panels which a (cowboy) upholsterer would cover & I would then fit. in addition I would take 12 small tables , strip  & re polish them-  (difficult to apply due to the silicons in the wood)  I had already taken the the 8 much larger tables on the upper floor and completely stripped & polished them earlier.

Once the framing was complete 2 of our ladies were to decorate the walls . I had been careful not to damage the wallpaper as the plaster was friable & would break away so i applied a plastic trim to cover the edges. the ladies then did the painting & did a very nice job as can be seen in the photos

After that the blinds were fitted

Then i fitted the upholstered seat panels & screwed them down so they would not be moved by cadets jumping on them. i finished this last Thursday. Carpets going down Saturday.

On Friday a club member decided to donate some cheap & nasty wall lights to replace the ones we already had.

SOOO a so called retired electrician & his mate turns up.(no certification to do electrical work) totally ignores the heap of dust sheets stacked on the floor next to them. Rips the old fittings off the wall, pulls down chunks of plaster complete with wall paper. Gets plaster down the backs of the "non removable" seating. Stands on the seats, lays the tools all over the table tops

Decides that the lights cannot be finished that day & will come back AFTER the carpets are done because they have some jobs to do at home. Leaves the ONE fitted wall light with a big patch of damaged wall & wall paper round it to be repaired & re painted . Does not think of placing a paptress over the damage to cover it. ( did not know what a paptress was!!

Then F's off leaving a mess for the 2 ladies to clear up & acts as though they are doing the club a big favour

This picture is just one half I will not bore you with pics of the other half-- rant over as tomorrow I will be in prison & the knife crime total will have risen by 2

RH seats



Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 07/04/2018 08:32:52

Thread: Trade wars and this hobby
04/04/2018 22:45:39
Posted by Trevor Crossman 1 on 04/04/2018 21:32:43:

It is already very difficult to obtain many of the less commonly used materials in UK due to the disappearance of much of our small manufacturing, and material importer/stockholders in this country are not interested is small retail supply, hence my reason for buying from the EU whenever that is the cheapest source for a particular item after all shipping and vat ( which may be much higher than UK rate) is taken into account. Trade wars will only make small scale supply to hobbyists more expensive and ulimately less available.

Has it not occurred to you that the reason that our small manufacturers have disappeared is because you are buying from abroad? Presumably because they are cheaper & will always be so now you have decimated our industries by buying foreign. Has it not crossed your mind that if we placed tariffs on the items that are being "Dumped" on us these goods you buy would not be cheaper than home grown?

But of course due to EU regulation we can only apply EU governed tariffs can we not?

But by leaving the EU one would hope that we would not be so restricted. However, the remoaners, & that includes Mrs May, seem certain to keep us aligned if they can

Thread: What did you do Today 2018
30/03/2018 18:31:05
Posted by Baz on 30/03/2018 13:52:52:

Swarf,mostly, you are probably right, they wanted all the old people out to fill the company with youngsters who had a couple of kids and a large mortgage so they could intimidate them. I know for a fact that redundancy would never have been an option.

That is a really depressing comment about your company & one which i have noticed on this & other forums. I suspect that it is just a cynical biased view by someone who is fed up with work . If i felt like that I would somehow think that i had chosen the wrong industry in the first place. To come away with such an attitude after giving a life's work would somehow seem wrong

For my part & in my industry, at least, I worked freelance for the last 12 years of my working life as I sold my 2 businesses to wind down for retirement well in advance. I found that the older i got the more they wanted me to stay & the more they paid me to stay. This winter I reached 71 years of age & it is the first I have not gone back but i know that one phone call to any of a couple of firms & i could have full employment immediately & be welcomed with open arms. I loved my work.

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 30/03/2018 18:51:43

30/03/2018 08:00:52
Posted by colin brannigan on 29/03/2018 21:19:43:

Today I retired after fifty two years as a toolmaker including apprenticeship, not sure if was the right decision but only time will tell.


Straight after I retired I took my boat to the Channel islands with a friend. I always do a safety check with new crew first so sat down with him & started & said " Now this is a holiday but" he immediately stopped me there & i asked him "why?" He replied " It is not a holiday, it is a new way of life"

It is great, although in my case i did go back to work for 4 winters, just for the comradeship (& the money!!!)

Enjoy your retirement.

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 30/03/2018 08:01:31

28/03/2018 21:55:26
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 28/03/2018 21:01:40:
Posted by Sam Longley 1 on 28/03/2018 18:41:13:
Posted by Steve Skelton 1 on 28/03/2018 17:07:25:

Kingfisher profits at 6.6% includes all the write-offs, HO overheads, expenses etc etc etc and is its net,net, margin nothing to do with purchase cost vs selling price. So if their gross margin is less than 60% on most items I would be surprised.

So tell me how you purchase something without the infrastructure, staff etc to buy it

The manufactured cost ex the supplier may be low but the purchase cost to B & Q by the time it hits the shelf is effectively far far higher.The cost of getting the sale is just as hard. The difference is small & certainly not cloud cuckoo land figures of 60%

Gross margin is = price sold - (price paid + subcontractor costs). It doesn't include any overheads.

Try & keep upsad -The original discussion started when SillyOlldDuffer correctly observed that that B& Q were possibly working on 4% margin. ( may now be 6% )John Carruthers seemed to dispute that. My point is really in support of SillyOldDuffers which was again disputed

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 28/03/2018 22:01:32

Edited By Sam Longley 1 on 28/03/2018 22:03:53

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