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Chris Shelton23/04/2018 15:02:16
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I have an Emco V10P lathe, and need to make a carriage stop for it, but the bed ways are rather an awkward shape, I have included photo's and a tracing taken from the tailstock end of the bed in my albums.

I do not possess a tilting vice or a sine bar, can anyone suggest a way of making an accurate stop for the carriage please.

I do own a milling machine.

Journeyman23/04/2018 15:08:39
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You could try something like this:-

sadstopmk2.jpg

The angle of the 'V' bed on the Emco looks to be at 90deg but one side longer than the other. You may be able to modify my design a bit,. Drawing and build ***HERE***

John

Clive Foster23/04/2018 15:27:17
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Looks as if you have a small vertical step at the bottom of the triangular guide on each side. A simple rectangular slot engaging on those vertical steps would probably give sufficient location when fixing a bed stop. Less than elegant tho'. The job would be neater if something fairly close to the triangular section above the vertical steps is cut by whatever means you have and the gap filled with metal loaded filler. Press the filled slot onto a well lubricated section of the bed to get the shape just so. Once its painted the filler won't show.

One advantage of the using filler to get the right shape on the triangular part is that a fairly rough job is actually better than a super smooth machine finish as giving plenty of nooks and crannies for the filler to grab. The good metal loaded fillers tend to be moderately expensive and come in pack far to large for a single small job. JB Weld is easier and cheaper to find and works well provided the layer isn't silly thick. Advisable to put dams of some sort in if using JB Weld as it can slump. I've used duct tape and plasticine for dams in the past. Worked well enough.

Johns drawings show a functional and good looking device.

The bedstop for my Smart & Brown 1024 has the clamp fixings on top of the stop rather than, as is more common, below.  Two bolts with square heads same size as the ones on the Dickson tool fixing bolts so the spanner is always to hand. I find this a very convenient set-up.

Clive.

 

Edited By Clive Foster on 23/04/2018 15:33:54

JohnF23/04/2018 17:06:49
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Chris, As Clive says Journeyman John has posted a good basic design however I have a factory stop on my Super 11 lathe and looking at your photos of the V10P bed it looks identical so I'll go and do a drawing of my stop but please PM me with your email -- never got to grips with posting drawings on here. My drawings are done long hand no CAD etc and the only way I can send them is scan to PDF etc and email them.

Incidentally the clamp bolts are the same as on the 1024 i.e. on the top -- much easier to use than when underneath.

Cheers John

Michael Gilligan23/04/2018 17:23:00
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JohnF

If you think your drawing might be of wider use to the community ... I could very easily convert PDF to JPG, so that you can post it here as a 'photo' [subject, of course to the forum's limits on picture size]

MichaelG.

Redsetter23/04/2018 17:43:32
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I made mine by sawing and filing. It did not take long. Anything wrong with that?

Joseph Noci 123/04/2018 18:25:14
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Problem with the V10P is that there is not much space between the forward V of the bed and the leadscrew below, so fancy turny handles do not fit in there.

My V10p Stop is a simpler version of the one shown here - the one on my 14D ( successor to the Super 11 and Super11-CD) - The 14D item is adjustable from the top. while the bolts holding the V10P one had the bolts on the bottom. I think the top bolts will not work on the V10 though...

If you need more pic of the V10P item, etc, let me know.

Joe

14d carriage stop.jpg

Chris Shelton24/04/2018 13:25:39
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Thank you all for the replies, I have measured the angle of the lathe bed way and unfortunately it's 85 degrees not 90

So I am going to go the sawing and filing route, was hoping to use an end mill and create the V in the stop.

JohnF, I have sent a message with my email address, thank you for the reply and the offer of the drawings.

JohnF24/04/2018 21:52:59
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Hi Chris I have created an album on here with some photos and a drawing of my bed stop, the Super 11 bed is 95 deg ! I also have a pdf of the drawing but cannot get it to load !!!

You also need 2 off 8mm bolts, 2 x 8mm washers and 2 springs -- see the photo's,

springs are O/D 0.473"  ;   Wire 0.031"   ;   1.500" long

Emco super 11 bed stop .jpg

Edited By JohnF on 24/04/2018 21:56:06

Michael Gilligan24/04/2018 23:39:58
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Posted by JohnF on 24/04/2018 21:52:59:

... I also have a pdf of the drawing but cannot get it to load !!!

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We ordinary forum members can only load JPG files. ... hence my offer, yesterday.

It appears, however, that the drawing you have posted is entirely adequate.

MichaelG.

Redsetter25/04/2018 07:07:00
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Remember it is only a G clamp, basically, and it does not have to follow the exact profile of the bedways.

I found mine very useful.

JohnF25/04/2018 09:53:00
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MichaelG Thank you for your kind offer but as you see I did it in jpg as well and it looks fine -- took a bit longer than anticipated but thats life !!

Redsetter -- well yes it is but then there is the old adage "if a jobs worth doing its worth doing well" personally I just like things to be made to a good standard.

John

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