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Rainbows14/09/2017 02:44:36
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Had an evening looking through the world of industrial auctions, some lots very much caught my eye.

The issue is the auction house doesn't package anything. I have had UPS collect packages before but it always involved the seller sticking it in a box first.

I wanna nab a bench drill and a servo driven dividing head. Neither are particularly difficult to move about. The bench drill is already on a pallet even.

The auction house is giving some other rules too

"Buyers or third party movers must present an invoice to the on-site personnel when removing their items."

"Buyers / Transport Companies must bring their invoice copy to site together with copies of:- Public Liability Insurance, Suitable Method Statement / Risk Assessment, Capability and Competence references and appropriate Licensing. It is the buyer’s responsibility to ensure their removal contractor has the appropriate insurance coverage. If there is any doubt as to the limit of insurance needed please contact the office."

Though the second one I imagine applies more to people moving 100 tonne CNC machines rather than a drill press.

Can anyone recommend a courier that could take the goods from Melton Mowbray to Sheffield that wouldn't mind printing off an invoice and won't mind not having everything pre-labeled?

Ian Parkin14/09/2017 07:12:14
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Well just find a mate with a car its only a 3 hour job from sheff to mm and back surely will be cheaper than most couriers.

clogs14/09/2017 07:46:52
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Rainbows,

it'd be best all round if u can do but if not, instruct the seller to put the other item on the same pallet as ur drill press the use "Pallet Line" or some firm similar.....

they charged me £250 to deliver a 3ltr Isuzu diesel engine on a EURO size pallet to Bordeaux, France.......heard that a similar job but within the UK is around £150......unless ur items are very cheap or very special the transport make the whole job quite expensive......

mind u I have also used "a man with a van", local paper or eBay, normally sensible blokes who'll just take the stuff off the pallet and transport them....

wish u luck.........clogs

Bazyle14/09/2017 08:59:05
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It looks like they have got an attack of the jobsworths. They are passing on their insurance and HSE conditions and don't care if it is expensive or inconvenient for you. An auction house is not going to care that small lots don't make much money for the seller as their commission is small so they don't care about putting off a few private buyers. Even if you as the new owner turn up they might stop you at the door if you don't have silly amounts of insurance to protect them (ie their insurers) in case you drop something on your toes while on their premises.

If you are turning up yourself you should arrange cash on collection and only pay up when you are sure they aren't going to play these games with you. You might have to force them to move the item to a kerbside position technically off their premises. In doing that they might cooperate and place it on the pallet you have provided at that position.

I've not heard of the Capability and Competence reference before but it sounds like a catch all for the crane operating course, ladder climbing course and all the other overpriced courses the HSE training companies are pushing.

The method statement and risk assessment you can invent yourself just putting down every nitpicking detail you can think of to make it 2 or 3 pages long so they think it looks good. They aren't going to read it, they just need a few pieces of paper to file.

SillyOldDuffer14/09/2017 09:30:44
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Rainbows: best way is to get Bazyle to organise the collection for you. That way he takes the flak if anything goes wrong. No problem, he's up for it!

smiley

Dave

mark smith 2014/09/2017 10:22:23
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Ive looked at these quite often ,but nearly always get put off by some of their terms and conditions . There is also often a deposit which is often quite large before you are allowed to bid. On looking around reviews etc... ive heard the deposit is often slow to be returned . Ive seen some where they want a £1000 deposit and if your only looking at small items going for a couple of hundred pounds or even less, it starts to get a bit ridiculous for a private buyer.

Dealers in used tooling and machinery probably have this all worked out.

mark smith 2014/09/2017 10:36:55
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Forgot to say ive used this guy several times,Roy Walker .

My Southbend on cabinet from London to Cumbria ,and my Alexander mill from just outside Sheffield to Cumbria. Also a bandsaw on stand from Yarmouth to Cumbria. Hes not afraid of hard work and with help from me we managed my end with unloading both and even getting around by back garden (in the case of the alexander it took 2 hours to get around the garden).. His price was always very good ,especially if he can fit it in with a journey hes already doing.

**LINK**

Ive also had several pallets collected by palletline,etc... for around £40,but they need to be on a pallet with easy access for the driver.

Edited By mark smith 20 on 14/09/2017 10:37:31

Rainbows14/09/2017 13:52:27
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Well they let me register for the website without a company but to register for the specific auction they emailed me I need a company and VAT number. No £25 Meddings drill for me. Would have been helpful if they had said at the beginning they needed that. Avoid Apex Auctions if you don't have a shell company

Have Roy Walker noted down for future reference though, sounds a good guy to know.

larry Phelan14/09/2017 19:35:57
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I never bother with auctions because there seems to be a cozy arrangement between auctioneers and the well known dealers,they get first choice,you get to bid on what they dont want. You are not really wanted there,simple as that ! Plus,you can,t check if the stuff even works. You buy A-PIG-IN-A POKE.,with no come back.

You can be assured that the dealers have been advised what,s good and what,s not.

Walk away from them FAST !

Ian Skeldon 214/09/2017 20:09:26
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There's a guy on ebay who advertises that he will move machinery around at very sensible prices, I think he is called machinetransport100 or something similar. I have never used him though so can't actually recommend.

mark smith 2014/09/2017 20:55:28
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Posted by larry Phelan on 14/09/2017 19:35:57:

I never bother with auctions because there seems to be a cozy arrangement between auctioneers and the well known dealers,they get first choice,you get to bid on what they dont want. You are not really wanted there,simple as that ! Plus,you can,t check if the stuff even works. You buy A-PIG-IN-A POKE.,with no come back.

You can be assured that the dealers have been advised what,s good and what,s not.

Walk away from them FAST !

I wouldn`t class all auctions like that ,normal auction houses are generally most obliging and you can find the odd good deal.

But these specialist machinery auctions appear to be uninterested in selling to general public and make it very difficult to do so.

duncan webster14/09/2017 22:18:19
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Google Landylift, friend of mine used them, seemed very good, but whether it's worth his while going to Melton Mowbray for such a small load is debatable

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