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Boiler Bri19/05/2017 17:59:00
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Is is cheaper to employ someone 80miles away, if not I can not understand why they are doing it. They still have bodies employed doing the job.

Looks like it will be stanstead from now on!

Bri

Michael-w19/05/2017 18:09:06
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Posted by Ady1 on 19/05/2017 17:55:31:

"There's as much chance of a nuclear accident as there is of an airliner crashing onto Wembley on cup final day"

I suppose the bottom line for all these things is money, and if a few people have to die along the way then that's just the way it goes

Yep, wouldn't be the first time a big corporation has defended their actions in the name of profit and cover up evidence of harm to life.

Michael W

SillyOldDuffer19/05/2017 18:44:34
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Probably not as daft as it seems. Don't air traffic controllers already sit in front of screens rather than look out of the window? And aren't railways long since run from a small number of control centres? I guess if the remote system fails the problem is no different to fog, which I hope they know how to deal with already. There might even be advantages - you can have many more cameras on the ground than eyeballs and cameras can see in the dark. Much cheaper outside London and the people operating the system are less likely to get stuck in traffic on their way to work.

Anyway I don't care - you wouldn't get me up in one of those things!

Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 19/05/2017 18:45:45

Mike Poole19/05/2017 20:48:35
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Hi Bill, I guessed the GA would be a well rehearsed situation but still must need a quick response to avert a potential disaster. My Fathers penultimate RAF posting was Air traffic control at West Drayton but we never really talked about the nitty gritty of his job but it did not involve landing civilian aircraft more negotiating military aircraft through busy civilian areas. He transferred to RADAR after he finished as a pilot. Brize Norton was his final posting and was involved in Concord's maiden flight. I have the thankyou letter for his assistance to Raymond Baxter during the flight.

Mike

Speedy Builder529/05/2017 18:32:50
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Mmmm - BA computer systems and backup systems fail . It can't happen can it ?
BobH

KWIL29/05/2017 18:52:43
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In the case of London city airport there are 3 separate feeds to Swanwick ATC centre and the cameras can zoom in as opposed to picking up a pair of binos., if a close up view is required.

Michael-w29/05/2017 20:08:34
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Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 29/05/2017 18:32:50:

Mmmm - BA computer systems and backup systems fail . It can't happen can it ?
BobH

Ooh, trolling

Neil Wyatt29/05/2017 20:35:18
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Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 29/05/2017 18:32:50:

Mmmm - BA computer systems and backup systems fail . It can't happen can it ?
BobH

BA CE finally does an interview for R4 PM program.

Straight question: "What did the power surge do to your computer system?" did NOT get a straight answer, despite several tries.

All very odd, as if they are inviting people to speculate.

Neil

John Alexander Stewart29/05/2017 23:40:26
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Posted by KWIL on 29/05/2017 18:52:43:

In the case of London city airport there are 3 separate feeds to Swanwick ATC centre and the cameras can zoom in as opposed to picking up a pair of binos., if a close up view is required.

Seen the case where two feeds, from two competing service providers (lets call them "A" and "B"  ) , provide redundant network links.

Both "A" and "B" subcontract (or, one subcontracts to the other) such that both sets of traffic go down the same fibre optic cable.

And, of course, a JCB takes out one cable, and both networks.

This was in the ARPAnet days, but would expect it to be the case these days, too.

:-|

 

Edited By John Alexander Stewart on 29/05/2017 23:41:01

Phil Stevenson30/05/2017 08:32:40
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 29/05/2017 20:35:18:
Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 29/05/2017 18:32:50:

Mmmm - BA computer systems and backup systems fail . It can't happen can it ?
BobH

BA CE finally does an interview for R4 PM program.

Straight question: "What did the power surge do to your computer system?" did NOT get a straight answer, despite several tries.

All very odd, as if they are inviting people to speculate.

Neil

I doubt if he has a clue about the power surge. He's a manager, not an IT boffin and he's making a spectacularly bad job of instilling any confidence whatsoever in BA. Still no comment from anyone at BA who actually knows what happened and why. It's amazing that several days on everyone is still in the dark.

Journeyman30/05/2017 10:17:40
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In these "modern times" any CEO would be far too busy studying his salary cheque, stock options, and bonus to be bothered with such mundane things as knowing what's going on with the company.

John

mark costello 130/05/2017 16:56:56
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The best redundancy is looking out the windows.

Speedy Builder530/05/2017 17:42:10
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Last night's TV , and they were still working out who shot president Kennedy! So what hope of BA coming clean.

SillyOldDuffer30/05/2017 17:55:08
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Posted by Neil Wyatt on 29/05/2017 20:35:18:
Posted by Speedy Builder5 on 29/05/2017 18:32:50:

Mmmm - BA computer systems and backup systems fail . It can't happen can it ?
BobH

BA CE finally does an interview for R4 PM program.

Straight question: "What did the power surge do to your computer system?" did NOT get a straight answer, despite several tries.

All very odd, as if they are inviting people to speculate.

Neil

I heard it too. A very poor performance. I would have expected the top man to have been well briefed and, apparently, he knew nothing. I'd guess he did know and was determined not to make a bad story worse by revealing the facts.

Not only did the computer system and recovery process fail catastrophically, but BA also mishandled the stranded customers. They had no plan for them either, for which BA management deserve roasting.

Trouble is, I don't think BA are any worse than the others. They just got caught.

Cyril Bonnett30/05/2017 19:54:48
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Trouble is when it goes wrong and it will at sometime, one human error and its a real mess and guess what? no one will be to blame.

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