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Record No.3 vice

Excess movement in sliding jaw

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Scott Stringer10/01/2017 16:20:49
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I have a Record No.3 vice. The sliding jaw has too much movement. That is up, down, and to the sides.

Question: Does a vice like this affect the quality of one's work for the worse?

If you have experience of a vice like this please respond. Thank you.

Scott

Ian S C11/01/2017 09:46:10
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Even if the vice it's self is a bit worn, you should get quite good use from it as long as it's well screwed down to the bench.

There was someone on this site not so long ago who repairs/refurbishes Record Vices, maybe he will pop in with some ideas.

My 30 year old #3 is showing signs of a little wear.

Ian S C

Michael-w11/01/2017 10:27:57
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Posted by Scott Stringer on 10/01/2017 16:20:49:

I have a Record No.3 vice. The sliding jaw has too much movement. That is up, down, and to the sides.

Question: Does a vice like this affect the quality of one's work for the worse?

If you have experience of a vice like this please respond. Thank you.

Scott

Hi Scott

If the movement seems excessive, it might be missing a gib strip to take up the slack, Just check and make sure there are no through holes on the side of the jaw where some grub screws might be located.

Michael W

Russell Eberhardt11/01/2017 11:00:46
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There are no gib strips Michael. They were never meant to be precision instruments. All of them have a little movement of the moving jaw. Mine certainly does but shows very little signs of wear after 40 odd years of use and abuse.

Russell

Clive Foster11/01/2017 11:12:51
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Ultimately such bench vices are all about getting the mating jaws to line up against each other for a good grip. Having the moving parts a "rattling good fit" lets the various parts shift around as required for self alignment and maximum grip as the jaws clamp up. Such self alignment makes the device very tolerant of abuse and harsh use. With a good bench vice you are paying for proper base material, proper manufacturing methods and proper heat treatment to withstand the efforts of Bubba & Co.

For a bench vice the exact position of what you are holding generally doesn't matter. It just has to stay put whilst you operate on it. Grip is all. Different for a milling vice where workpiece position is as important as grip so everything has to be tight and move in accurate alignment.

Clive

Clive Hartland11/01/2017 11:19:57
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Perhaps a solution is to drill and tap holes and insert flat ended grub screws and set them to take as much play as possible without binding. Vertical play if possible do the same thing. Just an idea.

Clive

Michael-w11/01/2017 13:42:17
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Posted by Clive Hartland on 11/01/2017 11:19:57:

Perhaps a solution is to drill and tap holes and insert flat ended grub screws and set them to take as much play as possible without binding. Vertical play if possible do the same thing. Just an idea.

Clive

Seems reasonable enough to me, if it really is moving around that much.

Michael W

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