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Thread: advice required
31/01/2017 22:28:57

Thanks Mark. Nice pics of your machine.Even the original motor! Sorry for the delay responding.The site decided to refuse my password until now! The grey looks fine but as yet I have not chosen a colour for my machine.I suppose it depends what the shop has in stock when I go. No such luck today! Plenty of info on the web and lots of videos but most are superficial rubbish which tell little or nothing.






Edited By john evans 13 on 31/01/2017 22:30:51

30/01/2017 17:35:47

Yes Mark..a typo. It is 415.

Interesting to hear they were grey. I suppose it could have been thoroughly cleaned up and repainted in the past..maybe more than once? One tends to assume paint found on inner faces of castings to be original,if so,green was the colour:if not...?

Anyway it is progressing slowly.tailstock and all guards are off. Info plates refurbed and quite a bit of paint scraped off by hand. I am off to the shops tomorrow to chose a colour then buy 500ml which I expect will suffice.

I favour rustolium which I use on outdoor metal posts with success but it depends if they have a suitable colour. I like originality but do not want to go to extremes as it is only cosmetic.

30/01/2017 13:19:00

Age? Last nigh I believed it to be 1941 based on serial numbers close to it on an american macinery site.

Today I cleaned up the plates and it appears to be 1940. Catalogue no 413. 40 bed length 3.5. Serial no 116895.

The plate on the back shows

AD.M 1432/18

P.NO 111


NO sign of grrey paint anywhere,just green and cream.

29/01/2017 22:08:37


No I do not want black but I understand your viewpoint. I would like to keep the colour close to original..not that I have with my 1924 royal enfield. My 1963 norton is green but darker than that on the lathe.


The seller told me the headstock had pb bushes but as I have not stipped the machine I cannot be sure. The serial number seems to put it at 1941,a model c..not a 35 junior as believed. This would fit the wartime use I was told about plus the 1940's purchase date.

The is no discernable play in the bearings and oil was visible in the oilers.In fact the whole machine operates smoothly. Before buying,my own research indicated that beds wore more that headbearings.The bed was rescraped in the past so hopefully it is ok for a few more years.

Are there any things to watch out for on the stripdown. I hear tge spring loaded wicks can be an issue?

Thanks for the feedback

29/01/2017 18:41:15

Update as promised

The southbend is now home and I am pleased to report it is better than anticipated. The rust shownn in the sales pics turned out to be a mix of old oil,dust and sawdust. 14 additional change gears were located,3 chucks,one 4 jaw independent, a drill chuck and drills. Thread form tool,tool steel,tool holders and cutters.

It is currently painted white but seems to have been green initially. Any idea what is a close shade of paint?

The motor is quiet but it needs a new drive belt as it is perished and broke at the stitch when I ttied to separate it. All in all a good buy,150 well spent,I even picked up a nice 3a vice for an extra 20.

Happpy bunny. Just have to strip,clean and refurb cosmetically now.

Thread: Need to get a Welder!
26/01/2017 18:43:15

I have a clark 150 mig and over the 20 or so years I have had it can find little to complain about. Even the pinch rollers are original but I now run a steel liner,much more reliable.As others suggest,get a bigger bottle unless you like running out of gas mid way through a job.

I also have a stick/tig invertor. Chinese,Giant make. Cheap as chips,circa 200amp and circa £170. For stick welding it gives good,stable results. I have not tried it as a tig but doubt it will be brilliant.

Thread: advice required
25/01/2017 20:29:59

Well that put a dampener on things. I suspect there will be wear but am reasonably confident the bearings are phosphor bronze as I looked up the original sales documents online. Sadly not the large dia spindle but it is said to be hardened.

As it is only £150 i can take the chance.

23/01/2017 10:19:15

Time will tell. I cannot collect until sunday at the earliest so will report on my findings once collected.

The owner says there are other items to take but at present I know nothing more.

I assume having been owned and used by the late owner since the late 40's it must have been good. I am told he gave it much use and had to rescrape the bed due to wear in the centre.

22/01/2017 21:25:26

Thanks for the many responses and opinions.

Tonight I bought an old southbend 9" swing 36" bed machine. Unused and neglected for over ten years but owned since the late 40's by a development engineer.

Fingers crossed.It was cheap so if things do not work out it can be sold as spares.

Thread: Warco vs Chester
22/01/2017 21:19:55

I live near Chesters Hawarden factory warehouse so buy from them.There have been times I have walked out without making a purchase simply because the one salesman,Tony,is too busy to attend to ms.

I generally get annoyed at the waste of my time yet invariable return some other time. They really should do better.

Warco?not been there but have phoned,I was treated like a nuisance by a female staff member so have not bothered


All business' have their issues and we make our choices based on how we feel about the manner we are treated. Sadly they often forget that!

Thread: advice required
15/01/2017 23:00:43

Thanks John but I want to buy something to use,not throw more money at. I arranged to go to Widnes to see a boxford tomorrow but have recd a text saying it is now sold. According to eBay it was removed due to an error so assume he sold privately and pulled the auction to avoid commission.

11/01/2017 12:14:54

Thanks Carl

What I failed to say was that it took 1.5hrs and used a copper alloy. The cut was only .75mm.

This is the cruz of my problem.Cuts have to be shallow and taken in steps. If I use Bms it will take longer and cgatter will occur. Stainless is ok to machine.

Looking at the chester 920 which is a logical upgrade I feel the minimum speed is too high,the 7/8 drop to 50 but are just bigger versions of my tiddler.

I will keep looking. Thanks again.

10/01/2017 21:00:48

Yes it is difficult but I honestly have no intention of breaking the budget. I can get by with what I have if need be as it is not as bad as I portray.It can still turn accurately with care and time. In fact I used it today on a 275mm bar. The taper was 0003 end to end.Certainly good enough for what I needed.

I had set my heart on a bigger machine but will not worry if I fail to find one.

Thank you for the advice imparted so far. I can use a lathe etc but do not frequent hobby sites etc so the info on suppliers etc has been invaluable.

10/01/2017 19:21:43

Well the owner of the lathe in church stretton got back to me after the auction ended.

Still no idea of its manufacture. Weight approx 1/2 tonne. The major issues are that it does not run without shedding its monster 4"belt. Additionally the drive has been messed about with,plus the machine is 8' long..too big for me.

10/01/2017 10:00:10

Thanks Ajohnw. Useful info. Sale would be about the limit I am prepared to travel. The ml10 however appears to be still available,seems the buyer did not pay! Could be sus but I will see what happens.

400 has been suggested as my budget but I have not said that. I expect to buy something for up to 650. Yes I can pay more,but no I do not intend to to as my money is better placed in my old bikes as they are generally appreciating assets. A good lathe seldom loses either but once again it is down to choice.

Re the 14in lathe on ebay,why do people advertise items yet fail to respond to queries? It seems counterproductive to me.

10/01/2017 08:21:01

No I am not bothered by the ribbing,it is what happens on forums as in real life. Similarly threads get high jacked and go off at a tangent thereby forming new sections.

Re the 14in. Yes having looked again there are tools.I had discounted it earlier when the seller failed to respond to questions.

09/01/2017 19:25:36

I actually sought advice for the reason stated..i was considering an ml 10. As it happens this is no longer available as I dithered. I have bid on the 13" southbend but have been outbid and will not raise my price.

The advice is appreciated as I have made no decision. I will not however be buying from a dealer and if I buy large I will strip the machine and trailer it home the clean up,rebuild and reset everything.

Re the ebay search I cannit find much.I have no idea what the 14in in church stretton is but it looks a well used heavy machine with no extras.

As I screwcut I need a machine capable of doing so hence the cheaper boxfords are out. I think circa 500lb is the max I can cope with but I would rather keep to half that if possible.

I did enquire about a boxford on the classifieds on this forum but no was placed a month ago.

If anyone knows of a decent machine for sale which meets my criteria please let me know.

09/01/2017 16:42:22

Thanks Pete. I am not hung up over brands but I am on price. Many of the makes you mention are above my budget as I am an occasional tinkerer and cannot see it becoming a huge hobby. I only use my machines to fabricate minor motorcycle parts,stainless and brass nuts,bolts,studs and some new axles and spindles.

Harrisons,colchesters etc tend to sell for 800 plus. The boxford in Caernarfon is 800 too.He will negotiate but notby much hence it is still there. I have looked at other boxfords but they were also expensive plus I had hoped for a bench lathe.I have had to amend my options to suit space,cost,weight,availability.

I have not seen the machines in Bangor,whitchurch etc.are they on ebay? I tend to view ebay,preloved,gumtree and shpock..

I take the point re weight but reallyfeel the floor is overloaded even now so I have go carefully resolve this without creating too much work and expense.

09/01/2017 12:29:05

Well lots of opinions as I expected.Machine loyalty is the same whether lathe or vehicle.

It is true I do not want to fettle my machine. I have adjusted the gibs but they do not have the effect I need. The tool post holder dips then pulls the top slide when cutting certain metals. Frankly I doubt I could repair for the sum suggested. Having visited Chester machinery before xmas I thought parts etc had shot up in price.

There is an old southbend 13" on ebay at the moment. I really fancy that but it is heavy and also 130ml away so I cannot view. If good that would do more or less all I need. I do not mind cleaning and part restoring an old machine but do not feel justified spending on my machine. I have had an okd ml2 in the past and a tyzac zyto,both needed work.

Re the ml10,yes it is the 13"version but as good as you are likely to find. I thought it slightly bigger than my conquest but obviously not? It certainly looks substantial and importantly,rigid;plus it has the later bearings.

I am not against chinese machines but believe you get what you pay for. I have been lucky but many are not.I do not trust warranties. The variable speed switch was faulty soon after delivery..only the switch casing slipping on the spline. The warranty fix was to give me a new switch to solder in to place! I have looked at the new machines but they do nothing to excite me. Most hobby machines look like extended versions of my own machine or look crudely finished..some actually have less features but greater bed length which would be useful at times.

I do not want a warco or a clarke ..sorry owners! No reason other than choice. Sadly,residing in n wales there are few machines available locally hence travel is an issue. I also have limited space. My timber shed is 12x14,timber floor on bearers. 4 motorcycles and lots of tools/machinery etc. If I have a heavy machine I need to reinforce the floor to spread the load as I do not want to cut it away and concrete the base under a machine.

08/01/2017 21:31:08

Harrison is too heavy for my shed. I looked at a boxford.Nice machine but again heavy. I need a bench lathe or one with a pedestal .

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